New Agesa released 1.0.0.7B, massive memory speed boost for Ryzen 7000 on AM5, up to 8200MT/s now stable on Ryzen!

humbug · 21 Jul 2023 at 12:41

Grim5 said:
MSI says it's achieved 8600 and Gigabyte says it's gotten over 9000 on its b650e Tachyron board

Gigabyte provided the ram specs, they used a 32gb ddr5 kit rated for 8400 and overclocked it to 9050 using 1.38v and it's using CL54 timings

MSI & Gigabyte Achieve DDR5-8600 & DDR5-9058 Memory Speeds On AM5 With Latest BIOS

MSI & Gigabyte have achieved DDR5-8600 and DDR5-9058 memory OC speeds on theirAM5 motherboards using the latest AM5 BIOS.

wccftech.com

Holly ####!

Meddling-Monk · 21 Jul 2023 at 12:47

Ah, OK, so I see they're just using Dual DIMMs, so it's a nothing burger for those with large capacity RAM configurations then.

FredFlint · 21 Jul 2023 at 13:25

Meddling-Monk said:
Ah, OK, so I see they're just using Dual DIMMs, so it's a nothing burger for those with large capacity RAM configurations then.

I would be surprised if this did not help with 4 DIMMs, even if it’s just a small bump. It would be good to get 5600+ with 4 DIMMs just by clicking EXPO/XMP.

RBImGuy · 21 Jul 2023 at 13:39

for gaming it wont matter much if any and may even be slower due to 1:2

keyser van someone · 21 Jul 2023 at 14:25

I decided to get AM5 the other week. Still in the testing / am I keeping it phase. I experienced EXPO wouldn't EXPO. Instead of 6000 it's at 5600MHz 30/38/38/96. I found it pretty funny/not funny at all that the motherboard vendors updated their QVL and removed RAM kits that were previously working. Sooo how did they achieve that then? Going from barely working to 8000MHz seems like they've been holding out on us

/tin foil hat!!

Meddling-Monk · 21 Jul 2023 at 14:47

keyser van someone said:
I decided to get AM5 the other week. Still in the testing / am I keeping it phase. I experienced EXPO wouldn't EXPO. Instead of 6000 it's at 5600MHz 30/38/38/96. I found it pretty funny/not funny at all that the motherboard vendors updated their QVL and removed RAM kits that were previously working. Sooo how did they achieve that then? Going from barely working to 8000MHz seems like they've been holding out on us /tin foil hat!!

From what I can tell, it's largely for two DIMM configurations where you'll see these being possible. It doesn't sound like (so far, certainly nothing I read or saw yet) there's anything to suggest that four DIMM configurations will see much more than what is currently possible; 128/196GB Max at 3600Mhz/4000Mhz.

Basically instead of lugging all that by the IMC in the chip, it's been told to work more efficienctly and speedily instead at two DIMM configs, and hence the speed boost.

Jamin280672 · 21 Jul 2023 at 16:30

Grim5 said:
MSI says it's achieved 8600 and Gigabyte says it's gotten over 9000 on its b650e Tachyron board

Gigabyte provided the ram specs, they used a 32gb ddr5 kit rated for 8400 and overclocked it to 9050 using 1.38v and it's using CL54 timings

MSI & Gigabyte Achieve DDR5-8600 & DDR5-9058 Memory Speeds On AM5 With Latest BIOS

MSI & Gigabyte have achieved DDR5-8600 and DDR5-9058 memory OC speeds on theirAM5 motherboards using the latest AM5 BIOS.

wccftech.com

Have you seen the timings though, they are through the roof, its probably the same as running 6000mhz at CL28, those benchmarks are less than double the speed of 6000mhz, but double the looseness on the timings.
54-56-56-126-168 doesnt impress me, its like speed it up one side, slow it down the other, Soc was at max and so was ram voltage.

I will flash it though, see if I can squeeze a bit more out of my 64gb kit than 6200mhz CL30, I wouldnt be at all surprised if my G.Skill 64gb Trident Z5 6000mhz CL30 kit would do 8000mhz CL54 though or there abouts with voltages maxed out on the new bios.

eeii · 21 Jul 2023 at 16:36

What the Lord givith he takith away.

Troezar · 22 Jul 2023 at 07:40

Will this help say 6000MHz kits run at lower latency?

Brizzles · 22 Jul 2023 at 13:27

Super Pi 8m / 7800X3D

9058 c54 = 68.497
6200 c28 = 68.711

EDIT - corrected original values

Jamin280672 · 22 Jul 2023 at 15:32

Troezar said:
Will this help say 6000MHz kits run at lowe

Brizzles said:
Super Pi 8m / 7800X3D

9058 c54 = 68.497
6200 c28 = 78.208

Roughly 12%

6200mhz CL30 = 68 secs

G.Skill F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR = Micron M die

Brizzles · 22 Jul 2023 at 17:06

Jamin280672 said:
6200mhz CL30 = 68 secs

G.Skill F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR = Micron M die

Different version of Super Pi.

I used 1.5XS - the same as the 9000mhz tester for my comparison.

Jamin280672 · 22 Jul 2023 at 17:28

Brizzles said:
Different version of Super Pi.

I used 1.5XS - the same as the 9000mhz tester for my comparison.

1.5XS gave me 1m 5.991s = 65.991 secs at the same settings, so 3 seconds faster. (on the new beta bios with same settings as the previous bios)

Brizzles · 22 Jul 2023 at 17:32

Jamin280672 said:
1.5XS gave me 1m 5.991s = 65.991 secs at the same settings, so 3 seconds faster. (on the new beta bios with same settings as the previous bios)

Interesting then, i'm still on non-beta, so hopefully some improvements waiting.

Jamin280672 · 22 Jul 2023 at 17:35

Brizzles said:
Interesting then, i'm still on non-beta, so hopefully some improvements waiting.

Going to push my kit a little at a time see what gives with the same timings, see if I can get 6400 / 6600mhz out of it 1:1, my ram voltage is already 1.4v stock so I wont push that any further, but SoC is at 1.2v, im happy to take that to 1.25v but not any further really.

Memory content restore still isnt working in the beta unless you have power down enabled, with power down disabled its still BSOD'ing

Cyber-Mav · 22 Jul 2023 at 18:07

Grim5 said:
Gigabyte says it's gotten over 9000

Waiting for the vegeta memes to start

Brizzles · 22 Jul 2023 at 18:09

Just re-run, i must have had something running in the backgorund first time - 68 secs now, virtually the same as your result.

FredFlint · 22 Jul 2023 at 19:39

Brizzles said:
Just re-run, i must have had something running in the backgorund first time - 68 secs now, virtually the same as your result.

I gets 66.895s with 5600 c36.

Jamin280672 · 22 Jul 2023 at 19:58

Brizzles said:
Just re-run, i must have had something running in the backgorund first time - 68 secs now, virtually the same as your result.

6400mhz was a no go I was getting errors within 100% pass of memtest pro unless I loosened the timings, which resulted in roughly the same performance, so I just brought it back down to 6200mhz CL30

Grim5 · 22 Jul 2023 at 20:43

Brizzles said:
Super Pi 8m / 7800X3D

9058 c54 = 68.497
6200 c28 = 68.711

EDIT - corrected original values

It's the same with gaming performance, there is no improvement with faster memory