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If the benchmark is right, it wont be true, all new cards will cost around 400-500pounds
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New AMD 300 series chiphell benchies
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If the benchmark is right, it wont be true, all new cards will cost around 400-500pounds
Caporegime
£400 for reference
£400-450 for aftermarket
£500+ for 8Gb variants,although maybe not for the 1st month or 2(If so i'd expect a higher premium tax)
Will be faster than a 980 no matter what.Although if Nvidia were to drop their prices between now and launch,i imagine AMD would probily slightly lower their price too.AMD generally are about Price/performance,so releasing a card at the same price as Nvidias top card but substantially faster seems logical to me.
Plus wasnt that how the 290/x launch went.Faster than a 780,but cheaper(more vram too)
£400-450 for aftermarket
£500+ for 8Gb variants,although maybe not for the 1st month or 2(If so i'd expect a higher premium tax)
Will be faster than a 980 no matter what.Although if Nvidia were to drop their prices between now and launch,i imagine AMD would probily slightly lower their price too.AMD generally are about Price/performance,so releasing a card at the same price as Nvidias top card but substantially faster seems logical to me.
Plus wasnt that how the 290/x launch went.Faster than a 780,but cheaper(more vram too)
Generation late? they hop each other. the 2 series came out in '13 and nvidia are still replying to it.
Depends purely on where you put the line in the sand
Soldato
X99 yet
Yeah mate, still tweaking it but going well so far.
Really fast rig.
Need a new GPU to go with it now . . .
I really hope this table from wccf is wrong:
The Fiji XT is likely to be out of my price range, at £300 - £400. Still, I'd be tempted if it was 8GB, but it isn't.
The next model down is a re-badged Hawaii, which will still be a frickin' volcano, if not worse than the current ones.
Below that we have Tonga, which is about as exciting as finding the only thing left in your fridge is salad. We already know Tonga is just a like-for-like replacement for the 280 series.
And lastly, the Trinidad GPUs, which I was hoping was a genuinely new mid-range arch, turns out to be the super low-end, 2GB crap.
So really it's Fiji or bust, if this is true.
The Fiji XT is likely to be out of my price range, at £300 - £400. Still, I'd be tempted if it was 8GB, but it isn't.
The next model down is a re-badged Hawaii, which will still be a frickin' volcano, if not worse than the current ones.
Below that we have Tonga, which is about as exciting as finding the only thing left in your fridge is salad. We already know Tonga is just a like-for-like replacement for the 280 series.
And lastly, the Trinidad GPUs, which I was hoping was a genuinely new mid-range arch, turns out to be the super low-end, 2GB crap.
So really it's Fiji or bust, if this is true.
I really hope this table from wccf is wrong:
The Fiji XT is likely to be out of my price range, at £300 - £400. Still, I'd be tempted if it was 8GB, but it isn't.
The next model down is a re-badged Hawaii, which will still be a frickin' volcano, if not worse than the current ones.
Below that we have Tonga, which is about as exciting as finding the only thing left in your fridge is salad. We already know Tonga is just a like-for-like replacement for the 280 series.
And lastly, the Trinidad GPUs, which I was hoping was a genuinely new mid-range arch, turns out to be the super low-end, 2GB crap.
So really it's Fiji or bust, if this is true.
This table makes sense though. The Fiji will be the new high-end i,e 390/390X and the current high end will move down to 2nd tier (380/380X?)
This is what they did with the 7950/7970 rebadged to 280/280X when the 290 series came out.
It still takes the **** tho.
These days we get one new card each gen from AMD, and the rest are re-brands/tweaks. Tonga is more of a tweak than a new arch.
One new card per gen. That's the best they can do? How many engineers have they got left?
These days we get one new card each gen from AMD, and the rest are re-brands/tweaks. Tonga is more of a tweak than a new arch.
One new card per gen. That's the best they can do? How many engineers have they got left?
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The funny thing is Tonga is newer than the 290 architecture wise. So in essence we got the 260 285 290. New architecture does not always mean better as you only need to look at the GTX960 to see this. I think it's the stagnation all through both sides lineups these days. We get at the high end but below that performance barely moves on.
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What would take the **** is if they release the 'enhanced hawaii xt' early and priced followed a few months later with Fiji.
Anyway it's wccf, I wouldn't put much stock in it. What happens happens, let the chips fall where they may.
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Fiji XT it is then.
Soldato
I really hope this table from wccf is wrong:
The Fiji XT is likely to be out of my price range, at £300 - £400. Still, I'd be tempted if it was 8GB, but it isn't.
The next model down is a re-badged Hawaii, which will still be a frickin' volcano, if not worse than the current ones.
Below that we have Tonga, which is about as exciting as finding the only thing left in your fridge is salad. We already know Tonga is just a like-for-like replacement for the 280 series.
And lastly, the Trinidad GPUs, which I was hoping was a genuinely new mid-range arch, turns out to be the super low-end, 2GB crap.
So really it's Fiji or bust, if this is true.
+1
So once again the only new card is the very high end. The others have been recycled since 2013..
I guess it makes sense since the 390X is missing until later on, so the 380X is the mid tier, but enough to take out the 980. Once the full stack is launched, 390X/390 will be high end 380X/380 will be mid range and Tonga will be low end. Until then though 380X will lead the pack..
Caporegime
I really hope this table from wccf is wrong:
The Fiji XT is likely to be out of my price range, at £300 - £400. Still, I'd be tempted if it was 8GB, but it isn't.
The next model down is a re-badged Hawaii, which will still be a frickin' volcano, if not worse than the current ones.
Below that we have Tonga, which is about as exciting as finding the only thing left in your fridge is salad. We already know Tonga is just a like-for-like replacement for the 280 series.
And lastly, the Trinidad GPUs, which I was hoping was a genuinely new mid-range arch, turns out to be the super low-end, 2GB crap.
So really it's Fiji or bust, if this is true.
Well, "Enhanced Hawaii" doesn't match the apparently leaked Sandra specifications which put it at just over 3200 Shaders with HBM, that is realistic for 28nm, what is not is 4096 Shaders, thats too big for 28nm.
There could well be an enhanced Hawaii card, but i think that chart is missing the lower end HBM card, the 4096 Shader card could be the first card on the new process node.
Soldato
The 380X will eventually become a tier down in the stack so it does make sense.
390/390X ~ Highest end VS GM200
380/380X ~ High end VS 970/980
370/370X ~ Mid range VS 960/96XX
360/360X ~ Low end VS 950/950Ti
APU ~ Poor people (Joke)
I just want the best performing single GPU I can get, and will pay handsomely for it.
Please deliver AMD, I do not want to have to go the dark side ever again
390/390X ~ Highest end VS GM200
380/380X ~ High end VS 970/980
370/370X ~ Mid range VS 960/96XX
360/360X ~ Low end VS 950/950Ti
APU ~ Poor people (Joke)
I just want the best performing single GPU I can get, and will pay handsomely for it.
Please deliver AMD, I do not want to have to go the dark side ever again
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Only one highend card this year and that will be the 380X
As to the chart above it is rubbish as there are two words on it that give this away (WCCFTech and Alleged) lol.
All this talk about the 390X or 490X or even 890X that will be available in 2019 is pointless as they won't be on the same node and won't come from the same family of GPUs as the 380X meaning they won't be waiting in the wings as the real flagship.
For the year following the 380X release it will be the flagship and probably the last big AMD GPU on 28nm.
Enhanced Hawaii lol, it does not take much figuring out if it happens, identical core to the 290X with higher clockspeed, better faster VRAM (GDDR5) and improvements to the PCB.
As to the chart above it is rubbish as there are two words on it that give this away (WCCFTech and Alleged) lol.
All this talk about the 390X or 490X or even 890X that will be available in 2019 is pointless as they won't be on the same node and won't come from the same family of GPUs as the 380X meaning they won't be waiting in the wings as the real flagship.
For the year following the 380X release it will be the flagship and probably the last big AMD GPU on 28nm.
Enhanced Hawaii lol, it does not take much figuring out if it happens, identical core to the 290X with higher clockspeed, better faster VRAM (GDDR5) and improvements to the PCB.
I would expect to see three new cards from AMD the lowest one being a full fat tonga, then the neutered Fiji and finally the full fat Fiji.
Unless AMD decide to go for more than two tiers of Fiji cards (which of course they have done before 7970Ghz,7970,7950,7870XT all Hawaii based) I expect the three above cards to be all we will see from AMD this year.
Unless AMD decide to go for more than two tiers of Fiji cards (which of course they have done before 7970Ghz,7970,7950,7870XT all Hawaii based) I expect the three above cards to be all we will see from AMD this year.