New AMD Kit arriving need a bit of advice

So had a little time to go over phew things and not going to lie I don't like the fans that are on that AIO, pump is very quite but god them fans sounds like jet plane when they spin up, anything over 65-70% I'm not experianced enough regards AIO but had some artic fans in pass for case that I quickly removed due to noise.

What would you recommend it? In 120mm department

Need bit of advice regards this PBO: originally had -20 all cores then decided to try negative -25 when running cinebenchr23 I get 18177, looking at how the cores boost in Hwinfo this will very from 4040-5050mhz. Temp peaked up to 89c max, I could be wrong here but don't thing that's how this should be?

Decided to go back to -20 and results ware 18233 with all core not less then 4850-5050mhz, temps 84.9c max


Would this indicate that -25 all core is bit unstable? No crashes. Shouldn't negative 25 offer better temps ect.? Gaming wise temps don't go above 60-62c will get occasional spike in temps when opening program while game is running but this is to be expected.

If I'm correct I would have to take a look at finding the correct figures per core instead all but will await your replys.
 
ade555 said:
So had a little time to go over phew things and not going to lie I don't like the fans that are on that AIO, pump is very quite but god them fans sounds like jet plane when they spin up, anything over 65-70% I'm not experianced enough regards AIO but had some artic fans in pass for case that I quickly removed due to noise.

What would you recommend it? In 120mm department
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Check out be quiet silent wings 4 fans.
 
ade555 said:
fans sounds like jet plane when they spin up, anything over 65-70%
Shouldn't negative 25 offer better temps ect.?
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well set a custom fan curve in bios that doesn't let them scream? They are still good for noise/perfomance, just set up for higher speed in LFIII

lower curve allows higher boost at same volt and that could result in higher power and temps
To get better temps you need to combine it with temp or power limit

But the cb score should not be lower, recheck
 
alec said:
well set a custom fan curve in bios that doesn't let them scream? They are still good for noise/perfomance, just set up for higher speed in LFIII

lower curve allows higher boost at same volt and that could result in higher power and temps
To get better temps you need to combine it with temp or power limit

But the cb score should not be lower, recheck
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Fan curve is set but I do have them to ramp up incase cpu hits 80c, away from PC to actually tell you what they set at currently. Usually it don't trigger as temps run under 70. Don't know if I should drop the fans speed to max 65-70%

Regards all this PBO volts and temps when running -25 under multicore CB I can see the cores jumping from 4040-5050mhz when in -20 they steady with 4850mhz on all and max that I will occasionally see is 5050 per core but never lower then 4850, all this is bit confusing, where -25 will result in cores dropping to 4040 at times, and wonder if this is normal behavior. Once I get home this evening I will re-run CB and post results having figures reset on hwinfo, also I'm sure I seen voltage of 1.145 max on core

I hope this makes sense
 
Here are the results running @ -20 so managed to get bit then last night actually, only thing is I'm on Windows 11 not windows 10 not sure why it says that, version R24 says 11




 
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ade555 said:
Fan curve is set but I do have them to ramp up incase cpu hits 80c, away from PC to actually tell you what they set at currently. Usually it don't trigger as temps run under 70. Don't know if I should drop the fans speed to max 65-70%

Regards all this PBO volts and temps when running -25 under multicore CB I can see the cores jumping from 4040-5050mhz when in -20 they steady with 4850mhz on all and max that I will occasionally see is 5050 per core but never lower then 4850, all this is bit confusing, where -25 will result in cores dropping to 4040 at times, and wonder if this is normal behavior. Once I get home this evening I will re-run CB and post results having figures reset on hwinfo, also I'm sure I seen voltage of 1.145 max on core

I hope this makes sense
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I'm getting similar behaviour going from -15 to -20. Didn't crash in anything I threw at it, but it was definitely boosting more consistently at -15.
 
I had bit to much time on my hands this morning and decided to take a look at individual cores using first ryzen master then manually adjusting in bios. Cores ranging from -43 to -48. I tought great, run R23 on single and multi, with score of 18996 on multi. Then started a game that's where my fun has ended.
So where am I going wrong or is this ryzen master all bolloks? Giving this under volts is it to much? Returned back to -30/20/10 on all cores and is all back to normal. I can do any task if I set the cores individually apart from flight sim. Am I missing something?
When run r23 I kept eye on temps and clock speeds.
I'm trying to understand why more then anything, I stumble across a post sometime ago this could happen when load on cpu is to low but not sure if is accurate info.

 
Tetras said:
Yeah, 43 to 48 is way higher than I've seen anybody run on here, I think 30 is considered decent.
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Is not crashing when running ryzen master so I set them core to figures that I could test to max. Interesting thing is when you load flight sim and is heavy for cpu for a while everthing is fine until load on cpu drops off. Still just crashing back to desktop no black screen or blue, just shuts the game. Will have to try maybe on something else perhaps to see if same behavior?
 
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ade555 said:
Interesting thing is when you load flight sim and is heavy for cpu for a while until load on cpu drops off. Still just crashing back to desktop no black screen or blue, just shuts the game.
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I don't understand this stuff in detail, but from what I'm aware, with the curve optimiser it is not uncommon that instability is most strongly exhibited at low load instead of high load, due to how the curve optimiser is like an offset of the frequency/voltage tables and it gives you a relatively low idle/light load voltage for the CPU, which it may cope with worse than having a lower voltage at high load (though, without a power limit it will also increase the max boost frequency and the voltage along with it).

This behaviour ^^ can also be impacted by the motherboard.
 
Tetras said:
I don't understand this stuff in detail, but from what I'm aware, with the curve optimiser it is not uncommon that instability is most strongly exhibited at low load instead of high load, due to how the curve optimiser is like an offset of the frequency/voltage tables and it gives you a relatively low idle/light load voltage for the CPU, which it may cope with worse than having a lower voltage at high load (though, without a power limit it will also increase the max boost frequency and the voltage along with it).

This behaviour ^^ can also be impacted by the motherboard.
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I'm not expert by any means and is steep learning curve for me with amd, so thank you for your input. Just thinking out loud here, this would indicate that the voltage is to low on low cpu usage? Could this be somehow set under low usage voltage don't drop below certain figure?
 
ade555 said:
I'm not expert by any means and is steep learning curve for me with amd, so thank you for your input. Just thinking out loud here, this would indicate that the voltage is to low on low cpu usage? Could this be somehow set under low usage voltage don't drop below certain figure?
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That's beyond me, I'm afraid, maybe someone like @LtMatt could help you.
 
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