New build advice - Flight Simulator ready PC

Quartz said:
I would advise against this monitor. There are better options. Take a look at Iiyama's 34" 3440x1440 ultrawide IPS monitor if you can spend more or the Iiyama GB2770QSU if you cannot.

I broke my 21:9 monitor and am having to rough it on my 4k 16:9 monitor but for driving, flight, and space sim games the ultrawide gives a much better gaming experience as long as you can expand the field of view.

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So this isn't model https://www.overclockers.co.uk/iiya...hz-1ms-freesync-gaming-monitor-mo-13g-iy.html ?
Reviews looks great - but looks like they are hard to track down if not the linked product I have shown (slightly different code).
 
So I have ended up with the following, looing at the great advice here. I have changed the case and can see I will need to put the radiator on the top.
As mentioned before I have 2 Samsung SSD's that I will be re-using. And I have to look at the monitor as I am finding it hard to decide.

For the time being I will also use my GTX 1660 super.

The only thing I can see outstanding is wi-fi, so can anyone suggest a simple card I can source to enable connect whilst I await for my LAN line.

And finally anything else I might need for the build before I commit - a little nervous as first build so hope case etc will make life easy.

Am I good to go?:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £885.81 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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Thanks all.
 
philmo said:
So I have ended up with the following, looing at the great advice here. I have changed the case and can see I will need to put the radiator on the top.

The only thing I can see outstanding is wi-fi, so can anyone suggest a simple card I can source to enable connect whilst I await for my LAN line.

Thanks all.
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if you need wifi, why not get a mobo with it onboard, then you don't clutter up a slot in the build...the wifi 6 boards are £20 more than the non wifi, so similar if you buying a card seperately...
My basket at Overclockers UK:

I'd go msi board below as takes 4 nvme etc..asus takes 3 but more for white build...if you want gigabyte, then the micro board I put above, and now belowfor £199 will do though is a smaller form factor board, or you have to go for the Aorus Elite AX
Total: £451.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £460.44 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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mickyflinn said:
Cheap 300mbs pcie wifi card £8.45

.https://www.overclockers.co.uk/addon-wireless-11n-300mbps-pci-e-adapter-nw-005-ad.html

Maybe some extra thermal paste in case you have to mess around with the cooler.


https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-mx-4-2019-edition-thermal-compound-2g-th-01a-ar.html

@Craig_d1 Msi z690 pro wifi is the ddr5 version, Overclockers don't stock the ddr4 Wi-Fi version which is a shame.
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cheers @mickyflinn , linked the wrong one, appologies OP..meant to be the ddr4 version, which can't seem to see on OCuk atm, sure it was there recently......available elsewhere for £219.99
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-WIFI-DDR4/Specification
as looked to check elsewhere to see if available and is, noticed the Asus prime wifi d4 board is £469.99 in a bundle with the 12600k, so if taking 12600k above at £278.99(oem version), your getting board for £191 rather than £219.95 above, or other way round, getting the 12600 for £250 if paying £219.95 for board..also they had the tuf gaming plus d4 and 12700k at £599.99(that's £664.44 here so a big saving for a mid range build if someone asks for that...worth mentioning)
 
Craig_d1 said:
cheers @mickyflinn , linked the wrong one, appologies OP..meant to be the ddr4 version, which can't seem to see on OCuk atm, sure it was there recently......available elsewhere for £219.99
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-WIFI-DDR4/Specification
as looked to check elsewhere to see if available and is, noticed the Asus prime wifi d4 board is £469.99 in a bundle with the 12600k, so if taking 12600k above at £278.99(oem version), your getting board for £191 rather than £219.95 above, or other way round, getting the 12600 for £250 if paying £219.95 for board..also they had the tuf gaming plus d4 and 12700k at £599.99(that's £664.44 here so a big saving for a mid range build if someone asks for that...worth mentioning)
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Thanks for that - how would you compare the Asus Prime board to the Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X (I know The Prime also has wi-fi which is a bonus).
 
Craig_d1 said:
if you need wifi, why not get a mobo with it onboard, then you don't clutter up a slot in the build...the wifi 6 boards are £20 more than the non wifi, so similar if you buying a card seperately...
My basket at Overclockers UK:

I'd go msi board below as takes 4 nvme etc..asus takes 3 but more for white build...if you want gigabyte, then the micro board I put above, and now belowfor £199 will do though is a smaller form factor board, or you have to go for the Aorus Elite AX
Total: £451.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £460.44 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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Thanks - will look at both, I note comments below ref MSi DDR4. Will I see much difference in terms of building / set-up/ performance with either of these cards. I do not plan to overclock. I just want an easy life when building.
 
philmo said:
I hope to take the plunge and get a new PC.

My previous PC's have all come from O/C, and have cowered from building the machine myself.
This time after spending more time researching I am going to give it a go and do it myself.
With this in mind to offset my lack of build experience if the case or mobo I have listed do not lend themselves to novice builders I am open to ideas.

The machine will be for gaming, with my benchmark being Flight Simulator (I know this is taxing). Which I really want to get into. I plan to play at 1440p.

I am holding out for an RTX 3070 FE - and plan to use Telegram to hunt one down, my patience is not the best so I might have to resort to buying a pricey branded card if I have no luck.
I can use my old GTX1660 super for the mean time.

My budget excluding the GPU and monitor is around £1000, but I will go a little higher if I have too.

As I am gaming most of the time, I would be happy to strip back a little in any areas if there is not too much of a performance sacrifice. I do want to go down the Intel CPU route though.

Regarding storage I have 2 x 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD's, which seem fine. Unless of course its felt I would really benefit from some NVME's.

I would appreciate any help on further fans and fittings I might need, I will use current peripherals.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £968.02 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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Lastly I am also going to have to stretch to a monitor (1440p), I am less clear here. I wpuld like over 100hz response if possible. I would be happy with a 27", and the following have been suggested:

Gigabyte G27Q or Gigabyte G27QC. Any help here would be great, and preferably under £300.

Thanks in anticipation.
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philmo said:
I hope to take the plunge and get a new PC.

My previous PC's have all come from O/C, and have cowered from building the machine myself.
This time after spending more time researching I am going to give it a go and do it myself.
With this in mind to offset my lack of build experience if the case or mobo I have listed do not lend themselves to novice builders I am open to ideas.

The machine will be for gaming, with my benchmark being Flight Simulator (I know this is taxing). Which I really want to get into. I plan to play at 1440p.

I am holding out for an RTX 3070 FE - and plan to use Telegram to hunt one down, my patience is not the best so I might have to resort to buying a pricey branded card if I have no luck.
I can use my old GTX1660 super for the mean time.

My budget excluding the GPU and monitor is around £1000, but I will go a little higher if I have too.

As I am gaming most of the time, I would be happy to strip back a little in any areas if there is not too much of a performance sacrifice. I do want to go down the Intel CPU route though.

Regarding storage I have 2 x 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD's, which seem fine. Unless of course its felt I would really benefit from some NVME's.

I would appreciate any help on further fans and fittings I might need, I will use current peripherals.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £968.02 (includes shipping: £13.20)
​

Lastly I am also going to have to stretch to a monitor (1440p), I am less clear here. I wpuld like over 100hz response if possible. I would be happy with a 27", and the following have been suggested:

Gigabyte G27Q or Gigabyte G27QC. Any help here would be great, and preferably under £300.

Thanks in anticipation.
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Regarding your Intel Core i5 12600K, make sure you review it thoroughly here. I got something different for my build > search for it by title on Youtube Attacking AMD's Prices: Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. AMD
 
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Regarding your Intel Core i5 12600K, make sure you review it thoroughly here. I got something different for my build > search for it by title on Youtube Attacking AMD's Prices: Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. AMD
 
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philmo said:
Thanks for that - how would you compare the Asus Prime board to the Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X (I know The Prime also has wi-fi which is a bonus).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g3yiA1YREc&t=251s&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed
He test budget boards and msi tomahawk and asus tuf gaming for mid price boards...The asus board has 3 m.2 nvme gen4 slots rather than 4 on the gaming X, but does come with a thunderbolt 4 header and wifi...Hardware unboxed say it's a decent board. For a 12600 any of them are good enough. The MSI pro A wifi ddr4 board, they didn't test, they tested the ddr5 variant, but everything else the same, and another forum member posted a couple days ago saying it was rock solid from his recent build. Don't think you can go that wrong with any of these boards. are you going to need 4 nvme slots or 3 enough?..if it is, the asus and 12600 bundle I saw is cheaper than the gaming x and 12600, and gives you the wifi you want..you just have to buy away from OCuk for it.
 
philmo said:
Am I good to go?
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Yes, it looks like a decent system. If you want Wi-Fi then you really should get a board with Wi-Fi, or look at the Gigabyte Wi-Fi 6 PCI-E card if you want an actual decent Wi-Fi experience, it basically uses an Intel M.2Wi-Fi module on an adapter board to fit the full size PCI-E slot, but comes wit ha decent external antenna. Don't forget a board with Wi-Fi will also give you Bluetooth 5.0 or above, which is a must have IMO for a modern build.
 
GRAE MI said:
No worries, you can search for it yourself on Youtube, here is the title, no link... Best...
Attacking AMD's Prices: Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. AMD
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search brought up Gamernexus vid...pretty much all reviewers put the 12600k, incl gamernexus above the 5600X and say it is competitive..i certainly wouldn't be buying a 5600X for £319 that OCuk have it up for against the 12600k , and benchmarks put against the 5800X...I have a AMD 5800X, so not showing a bias to intel, i think it's better value at the mo, esp as the mobo has more features than AM4 at the mo...hopefully that will swing back to AM5 at the end of the year and leapfrog, and then intel will have to improve again, and so on..
 
Craig_d1 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g3yiA1YREc&t=251s&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed
He test budget boards and msi tomahawk and asus tuf gaming for mid price boards...The asus board has 3 m.2 nvme gen4 slots rather than 4 on the gaming X, but does come with a thunderbolt 4 header and wifi...Hardware unboxed say it's a decent board. For a 12600 any of them are good enough. The MSI pro A wifi ddr4 board, they didn't test, they tested the ddr5 variant, but everything else the same, and another forum member posted a couple days ago saying it was rock solid from his recent build. Don't think you can go that wrong with any of these boards. are you going to need 4 nvme slots or 3 enough?..if it is, the asus and 12600 bundle I saw is cheaper than the gaming x and 12600, and gives you the wifi you want..you just have to buy away from OCuk for it.
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Really helpful - cheers.
I think I might go for the bundle (which I have found elsewhere), will give O/C the chance to price match - but I know its unlikely. Regarding the NVME I will initially use 1 slot, I might update this later if I add another M.2 drive - but as I have 2 x Samsung 860 PRO's (1TB each), I cant imagine I will need to use any more any time soon. If they are much of a muchness in terms of clarity for the build etc I will be swayed by the bundle.
 
Journey said:
Yes, it looks like a decent system. If you want Wi-Fi then you really should get a board with Wi-Fi, or look at the Gigabyte Wi-Fi 6 PCI-E card if you want an actual decent Wi-Fi experience, it basically uses an Intel M.2Wi-Fi module on an adapter board to fit the full size PCI-E slot, but comes wit ha decent external antenna. Don't forget a board with Wi-Fi will also give you Bluetooth 5.0 or above, which is a must have IMO for a modern build.
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Good point ref Bluetooth 5, seems the way to go. Thanks
 
GRAE MI said:
No worries, you can search for it yourself on Youtube, here is the title, no link... Best...
Attacking AMD's Prices: Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. AMD
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Thanks - but I am quite sure for value and looking at silly amount of reviews I have seen that I will go with the 12600k.
 
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