New build, thinking of changing GPU now, thoughts please?

Daniel Brown · 23 Aug 2019 at 21:32

Hi, ordered a new pc build from overclockers. I currently have 2 benq monitors one is 4K and the other is a normal 1080p, the refresh rate is only 60hz but.

The new build pc consists of...

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
Asus Prime X570-P (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
Corsair Hydro Series H115i Platinum RGB Performance Liquid Cooler - 280mm
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit
Gigabyte Build Stock GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Corsair Force MP510 series 240GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F240GBMP510)
Team Group TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - System Stock
Corsair RMx Series RMx850 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020180-UK)

What would be a good monitor to pair up with this rig? Budget is whatever it takes really but I want to be realistic as I have just spent a pretty penny on the PC.

Thanks in advanced to anyone willing to help.

EDIT : Thinking of now replacing the GPU with the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Gaming OC 8192MB GDDR6? Thoughts guys?

Vish Petrol · 23 Aug 2019 at 21:35

What will you be doing with the PC?

Either save money with a 3700x or spend more and get a 3900x. 3800x is a waste of money.

Daniel Brown · 23 Aug 2019 at 21:37

Online PVP Gaming mostly and general browsing.

Daniel Brown · 23 Aug 2019 at 21:49

The 3800x has a higher base clock, I’m not planing to overclock it. Thanks.

NovaKill4 · 23 Aug 2019 at 22:26

Who specced the build for you? and have you bought and built it?

You are going to be bottlenecked by the 1660, it will just about be able to maintain 60fps in AAA titles at 1080p max settings.

You would be better getting a 3600 with a b450 MSI Tomahawk mobo and spending the £250 you have saved on a better GPU like the RX5700XT.

Daniel Brown · 24 Aug 2019 at 12:35

Thanks for the great reply nova! The graphics card just now will only be temporary for a while, shelled out a bit of money so will bang in another 16gb RAM and a better graphics card later down the line! Never realised the money I have spent doesn’t go that far now adays, and I got the ryzen 7 cause I plan on upgrading so trying to future proof myself.

So to sum up, right now I will be getting max 60hz anyways?

Pointless getting a new monitor until I upgrade the GPU?

Thanks for your help bud.

P.S it was a standard build on the overclockers website I just upgraded a good few components.

EsaT · 24 Aug 2019 at 14:01

Nvidia overpriced for performance 1660 falls completely apart trying to run 3840x2160 (4K in no direction) so there wouldn't be sense to buy that resolution monitor.
Assuming there were choise.
3840x2160 gaming monitors are really in their infancy and above 60Hz monitors are basically still on their way.
Maybe we'll get some choise during winter.
Anyway that resolution is going to be extremely demanding for graphics cards for many years if you want better frame rates.
(next-gen consoles will only increase GPU demands of game graphics in year)

2560x1440 is the sweet spot and there's already good choise of 144Hz monitors, though one or two new models should be coming soon.
Anyway 1660 needs cutting down settings to get good fps also at that resolution.
Would have been easy to fit good amount faster GPU into that budget by just cutting away some excess and marketing hype.

For LCD panels if you like dark room and want the best black/highest contrast VA panel has big advantage in that.
As downside some colour transitions are quite slow.
And high contrast comes at expense of horizontal gamma shift called "black crush", which makes dark shades collapse toward black when viewed from straight angle.

IPS panel again has better response times without such inconsistencies/spikes.
Also colour/gamma stabiltiy and viewing angles are best of LCDs.
As downside its black value and contrast are at usual LCD level, so in dark room it wouldn't look as good as VA.

So which one sounds like more of your usage scenario?

Daniel Brown · 24 Aug 2019 at 17:08

Thankyou esat, the monitor I already have is the BENQ 3270u 4K HDR, budget monitor that I was using for my Xbox one X but thinking about just using that for this build now as I won’t get anything more than 60hz. Yeah the Corsair cooling and rgb ram could have been cut back for more performance but I’m only moving into proper pc gaming so didn’t want to go all out in case it’s not for me. I will be using this for general stuff so I think wanting as much performance as over 100hz is going to be well out my price range at this time. Going forward would you upgrade the gpu straight away then with the potential of a 2560x1440 144hz monitor?

Thanks for the knowledge it’s greatly appretiated!

NovaKill4 · 24 Aug 2019 at 19:24

Ok the 1660 GPU being temporary for that build while you save up some cash for something better makes sense but as its your bottleneck there is no point in getting a monitor before upgrading the GPU IMO.

My advice would be save your money now and buy a monitor and GPU at the same time when you have the money. Get the fastest GPU you can and a 1440p 144hz monitor at the same time and dont worry about adding extra RAM for now 16GB is plenty for gaming.

Daniel Brown · 24 Aug 2019 at 20:26

Thanks nova, I could go and buy a new GPU and monitor right now but I’m just gonna hold out as this set me back a bit, will probably be posting in 3 weeks time saying it’s ordered lol.

paulmapp8306 · 25 Aug 2019 at 10:06

agree. Pointless getting a new monitor with that spec PC. Id put a 5700XT in as well, and upgrade the monitor at that point if you wish to (or wait a little and put a 2080/2080 super in). To be honest - if I read the code right, that Ben Q is a 32" 4k monitor. You' have to spend quite a bit to improve on that really unless you want to go UW or bigger still. Going up in quality gets expensive fast.

tamzzy · 25 Aug 2019 at 10:12

Daniel Brown said:
Never realised the money I have spent doesn’t go that far now adays,

because you're spending it on all the pointless bits...lol

Journey · 25 Aug 2019 at 10:30

Daniel Brown said:
Corsair Force MP510 series 240GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F240GBMP510)
Team Group TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - System Stock

Three... yes... three disk drives!

tamzzy said:
because you're spending it on all the pointless bits...lol

Not all pointless, the PSU will be great when he goes SLI RTX 2080 Ti

tamzzy · 25 Aug 2019 at 11:04

Journey said:
Not all pointless, the PSU will be great when he goes SLI RTX 2080 Ti

Oh dear lord

Daniel Brown · 25 Aug 2019 at 12:19

Thanks for the reply’s guys, what would you do then tamzzy

tamzzy · 25 Aug 2019 at 12:25

this would be my bang/buck build:

ryzen 3600
arctic freezer 34
msi b450 tomahawk max
crucial ballistix LT 3200c16 2x8gb
powercolor radeon RX 5700 XT dual fan
sabrent rocket 1tb nvme ssd
random 1tb hdd of your choosing
phanteks p350x case
corsair rm650 gold modular psu
2x arctic cooling p14 pwm pst fans

total build cost = ~£1100

Quartz · 25 Aug 2019 at 12:32

Daniel Brown said:
Gigabyte Build Stock GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

That's seriously underpowered compared to the rest. However, it will be more than adequate for online gaming at 1080p. Keep the 4K display for browsing.

When you're ready, look at getting the RTX 2080 Super and the Acer Nitro 120 Hz 4K or a 3440x1440 144 Hz UW monitor.

Daniel Brown said:
Corsair Force MP510 series 240GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F240GBMP510)
Team Group TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - System Stock

Rationalise these into a 1 TB NVME or SSD.

Daniel Brown · 25 Aug 2019 at 18:04

Quartz said:
That's seriously underpowered compared to the rest. However, it will be more than adequate for online gaming at 1080p. Keep the 4K display for browsing.

When you're ready, look at getting the RTX 2080 Super and the Acer Nitro 120 Hz 4K or a 3440x1440 144 Hz UW monitor.

Been looking RTX today and could pick that up soon, the only reason the GPU is low as it gets me going straight away and it will be the first upgrade in the near future, adding a RTX 2080 was over £2500, the reason I have went for a higher spec on other items, I have choose this build on the terms of knowingly going to spend money down the line and add more too it! Do you think it has potential to be added on too with like likes of the Mobo and power pack etc...

Daniel Brown · 25 Aug 2019 at 18:39

Quartz said:
That's seriously underpowered compared to the rest. However, it will be more than adequate for online gaming at 1080p. Keep the 4K display for browsing.

When you're ready, look at getting the RTX 2080 Super and the Acer Nitro 120 Hz 4K or a 3440x1440 144 Hz UW monitor.

Rationalise these into a 1 TB NVME or SSD.

This nitro is on sale at amazon right now

Is that worth grabbing just now for the price and specs?

pastymuncher · 25 Aug 2019 at 20:20

@Daniel Brown (strange coincidence as thats my son's name) You should remove the link before a mod see's it and gives you a "holiday". Links to competitors are not allowed on here. This forum is paid for and maintained by Overclockers UK so quite rightly links to competitors are not allowed.