** New Canon EOS M w/ EF-M Mount **

I think the 22mm lens is a decent indication it's be APS-C as that would be 35mm equivalent. G1x sensor would make it 40mm which I guess is feasible.
 
Very minimalistic.. I like it.

What's the benefit of mirrorless?

The mirror is the biggest factor in determining the physical size of a camera, especially when you look at DSLRs.

A mirrorless system allows for a much smaller form factor because it isn't using a mirror and the lens can be very close to the sensor.

They also offer interchangeable lenses and larger sensors than found in your typical compact camera.

So they are mainly marketed at those people who want to take great photos with control over it, but don't want to carry something as large as DSLR. They are of course also aimed at users who do use bigger cameras, but might want to have something small with them too.
 
I think the 22mm lens is a decent indication it's be APS-C as that would be 35mm equivalent. G1x sensor would make it 40mm which I guess is feasible.

Is there a 22mm EF-S lens?

An actual normal lens is closer to about 42mm rather than the 50mm used on FF, so a G1x sensor size does make sense here. It also makes send in general for the sensor to be smaller than APS-C to facilitate smaller lenses, otherwise you end up with a Sony Nex, great sensor in a tiny body with large lenses.
 
Is there a 22mm EF-S lens?

An actual normal lens is closer to about 42mm rather than the 50mm used on FF, so a G1x sensor size does make sense here. It also makes send in general for the sensor to be smaller than APS-C to facilitate smaller lenses, otherwise you end up with a Sony Nex, great sensor in a tiny body with large lenses.

Not yet!

I would also go with it having the same sensor format as the G1x - Canon would have to be mad to develop a whole new format for a single product, and then shift to mirrorless with a different format.
 
Very minimalistic.. I like it.

What's the benefit of mirrorless?

Size and weight, unfortunately these cameras tend to be very expensive and have concordantly expensive lenses compared to SLR equivalents, with a limited lens range as well, so they have quite a niche market. Ie, very rich photographers who want a more stylish and compact camera. Rather than someone who wants to take a step up from compact.
 
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I don't believe they are all super expensive.

The Olympus PEN system is similar to a low end DSLR, which is what its supposed to be as good as, without the size.
 
I don't believe they are all super expensive.

The Olympus PEN system is similar to a low end DSLR, which is what its supposed to be as good as, without the size.

The lens prices mean you can't compare it to a low end DSLR though as a system camera.

Canon 550D + 50mm f1.8 = £455.
Olympus E-PL1 + 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 + 45mm f1.8 = £500.

As someone who has owned both cameras I can tell you which one I prefer for low light photography, with a 46% larger sensor and 61% better ISO performance it's no contest for the 550D. If you want the 75mm f1.8 which is an astonishing £800, you can buy a 2nd hand 5d mark ii + 85mm f1.8 lens for around the same price. Unfortunately because there is virtually no 2nd hand m4/3 market you don't have that luxury with them.
 
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I don't believe they are all super expensive.

The Olympus PEN system is similar to a low end DSLR, which is what its supposed to be as good as, without the size.

They don't really compare to low end DSLRs though. The Sony Nex cameras obviously do image quality wise, but in handling and auto focus there is a sizable difference, except the Nikon 1 is not too far behind low end DSLRs AF wise.

Still a long way to go before they are a serious contend for those that care, but most of those people won't have low end DSLRs.
 
Interesting musings from one of my favourite photographers, Dan Carr.

Dan Carr said:
What Now For The Rebel……? Canon’s Grand Plan.
When Nikon launched their mirrorless 1-System they made a clear decision not to interfere with their DSLR sales by going with a smaller sensor even than M4/3 , approaching point and shoot size. Canon have decided to put a variant of their latest 18MP APS-C sensor in the EOS-M lineup though and you have to wander what this will do for the Rebel lineup. For your average consumer when they see both of these cameras alongside each other in Best Buy , both with a 3″ touchscreen and both with the same size 18MP sensor, but one is half the size and cheaper, it will clearly impact sales of the larger Rebel brother.

I put to you a crazy idea….

Canon is rumored to be introducing a lower priced full frame camera in the not too distant future. They also introduced a huge firmware update for the 7D recently. My initial reaction was that they were extending the life cycle of the 7D for some reason. There would seem to be no good reason to add those features to a camera which by Canon’s usual timelines would be due for replacement within the next few months. Maybe Canon sees the future of APS-C sensors in the EOS-M lineup only ? Perhaps we will see a gradual move to full frame cameras in all their DSLRs ? The 1.3x crop sensor has already been phased out and from a consumer point of view it would be far simpler to have crop sensors in physically smaller cameras. It is something that the consumer can easily understand and relate to. Small camera, small sensor. Big camera, big sensor. Keep it simple.

We used to have an XXD camera , the 7D , the 5D and the 1D. But the 5D Mark III did blur the lines more than some people may have realized when it added the AF system from the typically sports oriented 1D series. I used to recommend the 7D to people who wanted to use a smaller camera for sports, but now I recommend the 5D Mark III instead. It has superior AF, decent FPS and a much better sensor. A lower priced full frame camera could be a combination of the XXD and 7D line giving us a complete DSLR lineup of full frame cameras.

But what will XXD customers buy you say ?? Well it is clear to me that the EOS-M lineup will also feature a ‘Pro’ model with a viewfinder in the not too distant future. If this first EOS-M will replace the Rebel , what camera would be replaced by a more fully featured ‘Rebel’ that still has an APS-C sensor ? Yep, you got it, the XXD line. There is no way that Canon can introduce two new cameras with APS-C sensors and interchangeable lenses without culling something from their current lineup. Something has to give because the consumer typically doesn’t want to have such a broad range to choose from, especially when on paper to them several of the cameras appear to have identical features.

http://dancarrphotography.com/blog/2012/07/22/canon-makes-mirrorless-official-eos-m/
 
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lol
 
Turns out our Canon rep at work wasn't talking ****! he said a mirrorless would be launched at the back end of this month...
 
Tbh I actually think it's fair enough on the pricing. Obviously it will have to come down in a bit but as it is, it serves as a very viable backup camera in a way that none of the others really do. The NEX presents a nice camera but the lens system is practically non-existent, and I'd be unhappy with performance from all of the others' tiny sensors.

I can see plenty of uses for this tbh, but I'm surprised that Canon went this way. It can replace a compact camera with the pancake on, and then if I absolutely need two focal lengths covered I can just pop an adapter on, while retaining pretty good IQ.

That said my kit has a long way to go before I spend this sort of money on a backup, but I can see legitimate enthusiast uses for it beyond not being bothered to take out the full DSLR kit, which I think Canon deserves some credit for.
 
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