New Car Arrival

blueboy2001 · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:07

The_Dark_Side said:
you're kidding?
given beemers reputation you'd expect even their servicing diagnostics to be more sophisticated than more mundane dealers equiptment.

I've never really understood the "BMW's are more sophisticated" and "BMW's need special main dealer treatment" at exorbitant labour rates line.

Ok, so the M cars with their highly tuned engines may need special attention, but the standard 4 and 6 cylinder models, as far as I can see, don't have any significant technolgical advances over what any normal manufacturers use.

For example, I had the brake fluid changed on my car for £25 at the main dealer. A "brake fluid service" at BMW costs over £90. My car has a Bosch ABS, EBA and ESP system similar to a BMW, so the procedure is more or less the same. Likewise with an oil change - it can't be any more complicated on a BMW than anything else.

PMKeates · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:21

blueboy2001 said:
For example, I had the brake fluid changed on my car for £25 at the main dealer. A "brake fluid service" at BMW costs over £90. My car has a Bosch ABS, EBA and ESP system similar to a BMW, so the procedure is more or less the same. Likewise with an oil change - it can't be any more complicated on a BMW than anything else.

The BMW brake fluid service at BMW really is just the basics - there is definitely nothing special that goes on. It's just the ~£130/hr labour rate that pushes the price up. What people (Including me!) will pay for that BMW sevice stamp

I've got an E46 Haynes manual, and nothing in there is that difficult. I think I'd attempt it all myself. In fact, I would 100% maintain the car myself if I had a garage/driveway!

tonyyeb · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:41

Simon said:
£650 a month for a 200k mortgage? (10% depo on a 220k house)

Where do I sign!?

A 200k mortgage will be more like £1100 a month

Me too!! Ill get in line behind you Simon!!

The_Dark_Side · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:54

blueboy2001 said:
I've never really understood the "BMW's are more sophisticated"

look at a 5 series wiring diagram and compare it to a Ford version.
then tell me they aint more sophisitcated.

dirtydog · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:57

The_Dark_Side said:
look at a 5 series wiring diagram and compare it to a Ford version.
then tell me they aint more sophisitcated.

Does the wiring need to be more complex though?

The_Dark_Side · 3 Feb 2007 at 14:59

dirtydog said:
Does the wiring need to be more complex though?

it wouldn't be if it didn't need to be.
they're in the game to make profit, nobody spends more money than they have to on their products.

dirtydog · 3 Feb 2007 at 15:39

The_Dark_Side said:
it wouldn't be if it didn't need to be.
they're in the game to make profit, nobody spends more money than they have to on their products.

Maybe they make it complicated to make profit on the servicing costs

jamoor · 3 Feb 2007 at 15:46

dirtydog said:
Maybe they make it complicated to make profit on the servicing costs

who makes a profit on servicing costs, BMW or a dealer

But anyway, living at home and buying depreciating assets is for suckers, living at home and investing eannings into ventures that will make you an ass load of money is where its at

Housey · 3 Feb 2007 at 15:55

Simon said:
£650 a month for a 200k mortgage? (10% depo on a 220k house)

Where do I sign!?

A 200k mortgage will be more like £1100 a month

Not if it's interest only.

dirtydog · 3 Feb 2007 at 16:07

jamoor said:
But anyway, living at home and buying depreciating assets is for suckers, living at home and investing eannings into ventures that will make you an ass load of money is where its at

You got a point there

Simon · 3 Feb 2007 at 16:08

housemaster said:
Not if it's interest only.

A renting without admitting it you mean

R4z0r · 3 Feb 2007 at 16:13

Gibbo said:
It seems to me that many members on here think that if you own a flash car as some would put but still live at home means you have put all your income towards a car and cannot afford to leave home? What bugs me is why people seem to think this when they have no idea of the persons financial circumstances.

Ignore them, it's jealousy plain and simple.

Back OT, that's a great car - enjoy it!

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Serj · 3 Feb 2007 at 16:14

jamoor said:
But anyway, living at home and buying depreciating assets is for suckers, living at home and investing eannings into ventures that will make you an ass load of money is where its at

What sort of thing are you investing in at the moment mate? Got a sum of money coming my way soon but still going to be at uni for another 2 years so wanted to put it away for a while.

dirtydog · 3 Feb 2007 at 16:22

R4z0r said:
Ignore them, it's jealousy plain and simple.

Not necess-celery

jamoor · 3 Feb 2007 at 17:00

Serj said:
What sort of thing are you investing in at the moment mate? Got a sum of money coming my way soon but still going to be at uni for another 2 years so wanted to put it away for a while.

Me?
Nothing.
I am making it to begin with!!!

Property is a good one though.

lordrobs · 3 Feb 2007 at 17:34

Serj said:
I think once you've lived away from home you'll realise how important it is. If you've never had the of experience of living away from home then it's understanable that you have no desire to do so.

Thats the nail well and truely hit on the head.

I don't really know why its important to analyse peoples decisions on the matter. If they are happy living at home and running a nice car then fair play to them. In 5 years time might they look back and think "that could have gone a fair way to a deposit" but who knows. Some people like to ive for the moment, others (like me) prefer to plan ahead, no big deal really.

Matt82 · 3 Feb 2007 at 19:06

moving out is under rated! you need piece and quiet in your life dont you?

i had a shed of a car out of choice

i actually got bored of sensible cars that behaved all the time lol

after the grief ive had from the golf today though, im not totally convinced that its the best idea i ever had, but onces its up and running again, its really good fun for pennies

[TW]Fox · 3 Feb 2007 at 19:12

dirtydog said:
TBH if someone earns a good sum but still lives with their parents into their 20s then there's something a bit weird about that, no offence.

Why must you constantly judge those who you perceive to fit this criteria whilst knowing absolutely nothing about their personal circumstances whatsoever?

dirtydog · 3 Feb 2007 at 19:15

[TW]Fox said:
Why must you constantly judge those who you perceive to fit this criteria whilst knowing absolutely nothing about their personal circumstances whatsoever?

I do know something about their circumstances; I know their age and that they can afford to spend a big wedge of cash on a car

[TW]Fox · 3 Feb 2007 at 19:17

dirtydog said:
I do know something about their circumstances; I know their age and that they can afford to spend a big wedge of cash on a car

But thats all you know - to deride someone as sad becuase they don't share the same sense of priorities as you is very silly. I'd fully agree with you if we are talking people in their 30's and 40's, but 20's?

Nothing wrong with enjoying life and experiencing a few years of having money to spend on nice things before buckling down, entering the real world and setting up a place of your own. You've got the rest of your life to pay electric bills, wonder about council tax and arrange mortgages.