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New card arrived but is it new?

I would say the chances of getting 2 dodgy cards is pretty minimal, so to me this would indicate the issue could be elsehwere. It could potentially be a PSU not doing it's job properly, or a dodgy motherboard/screen/cable. Do you have any friends/other PCs you could try your graphics card in to see if the problem follows the card or disappears in another setup?
 
The thing is ive got my 285 back from my friend now and it works fine and uses a lot more power, so i doubt its the PSU.

The 285 has no problems like this at all, i cant really test the card anywhere else, my bro wont want me messing about since he has a 580 and wont want drivers messed about with.

All my cables are fine, they work fine with the 285 so it must be the card.

I know the chances are so slim this is why im going crazy lol how the **** could this happen?

Motherboard is a rampage formula, i paid a lot for it at the time and its in perfect condition so i doubt its that.

Gotta be the card man :(
 
weehamish said:
It must be the same card or ive got 2x faulty cards!

Ive tried different drivers still the same thing happens, its now artifacting on desktop and screen blinking again!

I cant believe i have to send another card back at my expense!!

Check this vid;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJIuFYBzi50

Im so mad right now i cant believe my luck! The money ive saved on the week special im paying back in RMA postage!!! Im gonna ask OCUK to collect from my house this time i dunno how ive gotten 2x faulty cards!
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Firstly, OcUK pay for RMA postage on the fault being found

Secondly, you did not get the same card, please stop being so paranoid.

Finally, try some troubleshooting:
-Try a heaven run and see what score it gets using the settings in this thread:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18386056&highlight=heaven
-Try using driver sweeper in safe mode ot get rid of all the display drivers and install the latest non betas (12.10 IIRC)
-Try another system
-What PSU do you have?
 
It's all well and good quoting idle temps, but without knowing the ambient....pointless.
What's the rest of the system? Two faulty cards is slim, chances are something in your rig is causing these problems, not the card.
 
Cleeecooo said:
Firstly, OcUK pay for RMA postage on the fault being found

Secondly, you did not get the same card, please stop being so paranoid.

Finally, try some troubleshooting:
-Try a heaven run and see what score it gets using the settings in this thread:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18386056&highlight=heaven
-Try using driver sweeper in safe mode ot get rid of all the display drivers and install the latest non betas (12.10 IIRC)
-Try another system
-What PSU do you have?
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I dont see the point in benching the card, as it runs games good the FPS is great, it averages 52 FPS on shogun max settings 1920x1200, skyrim plays great at all ultra settings too, its just the damn artifacting thats the problem!

Ive uninstalled everything manually even inside regedit so its not drivers, ive wiped the drivers twice already and tried a few and still the same problem so i doubt its that. I dont trust driver sweeper so i delete everything AMD/ATI after uninstalling them from add and remove programs.

I cant try another system so thats ruled out, id like to but i cant.

Heres my PSU, i know it works perfect and has enough juice;



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Also i never got no cash back from OCUK so they never paid for RMA this time for me?

I maybe paranoid but how the hell can it be having the exact same problems?

My PC Hardware is;

Q9450
4GB corsair Ram
7850
750W PSU
Samsung 24" Syncmaster 245B
Cosmos S case
MB is an ASUS Rampage Formula x48 chipset

It was a pretty nice PC on release costing around £2k
 
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Why do you not trust driver sweeper?

Try sending a webnote asking for a refund on your RMA postage, they'll probably ask for a receipt.

Have you tried different sets of drivers?

It's possible for two cards to have the same problem, although it's highly improbable. If two band new cards have the same problem, it's most likely going to be something in your system causing it.

Also, the price of your PC upon release is irrelevant :)
 
Cleeecooo said:
Why do you not trust driver sweeper?

Because there is no need for it and a lot of people have reported corruption when using it.

Try sending a webnote asking for a refund on your RMA postage, they'll probably ask for a receipt.

Ill send a webnote it was recorded delivery so they signed for it anyways.

Have you tried different sets of drivers?

Ive tried the last 4 sets of drivers, ill go find some earlier ones now, but i doubt it will change.

It's possible for two cards to have the same problem, although it's highly improbable. If two band new cards have the same problem, it's most likely going to be something in your system causing it.

I know this is my point, so if its not the same card and i doubt its my pc if other cards work fine then it must be?

Also, the price of your PC upon release is irrelevant :)

I know but my point is it doesnt have cheap hardware, they high quality parts for that time and are still in good condition.
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The chances of you getting the same card again are even slimmer than two faulty cards.

Artefacting is usually caused by FUBAR VRAM and VRAM is a very delicate thing, is it possible you may have accidentally killed it? (not accusing you of anything)

Just to check, does the artefacting happen in games too?

If other cards work fine, then I'd RAM the 7950 (presuming it's seated properly)
 
Lol i havent killed it how could i kill it? I know it is this is why im going crazy!

Artifacting happens in Skyrim, none i can see in Shogun 2, ive seen tiny bits in Divinty 2. I havent really tested most of my games.

Yes the 285 works fine, it is seated perfect, ive tried reseating it no change, ive used difference power adapaters still the same thing happens.

RAM the 7950?

Im just confused by it all tbh, I know my pc works because the 285 shows 0 problems.

Just before on boot up the screen was blinking for like 3 mins none stop, ill restart my pc now and record it to see if it does it again.
 
weehamish said:
RAM the 7950?
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NNNOOOO!!!! Ramming it will cause physical damage and void your warranty! :p:D (I meant RMA)

In all seriousness, try prime and heaven and see if you can recreate the problem there as IIRC, that's what OcUK use to test the card.

Have you tried overclocking at all?

nvidia and AMD drivers don't tend to play nicely together, see if you can do a fresh windows install on a separate HDD to test if your software's fine :)
 
Cleeecooo said:
NNNOOOO!!!! Ramming it will cause physical damage and void your warranty! :p:D (I meant RMA)

In all seriousness, try prime and heaven and see if you can recreate the problem there as IIRC, that's what OcUK use to test the card.

Have you tried overclocking at all?

nvidia and AMD drivers don't tend to play nicely together, see if you can do a fresh windows install on a separate HDD to test if your software's fine :)
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LOL I no i would never ram it haha. Also its a 7850 not 7950 :P

Nope i dont wanna OC it when it does this as it will make it worse?

Its default OCed anyways 975 so its pretty decent from standard clocks.

Ill try heaven now see what happens.

I need a new HD first, i have too much stuff on this to format :(

I know there is 0 Nvidia on my pc, theres even a guide on the net to make sure nothing remains, i followed it and wiped everything Nvidia, and if the 285 was being corrupted by AMD it would have problems but it doesnt so i doubt its driver corruption.

Ill try Heaven to see if it artifacts, but like i said Shogun 2 doesnt so maybe its only some games, or only now and again, since the desktop artifacted :\
 
Well i just ran Heaven where does the benchmark save to?

It Artifacted a little bit, mostly blinking.

23:24:21 Benchmark finished
23:24:21 Time: 259.577
23:24:21 Frames: 12522
23:24:21 FPS: 48.2401
23:24:21 Min FPS: 8.71156
23:24:21 Max FPS: 103.396
23:24:21 Scores: 1215.17



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I dunno how to do it like the others i dunno what they mean? I saved the benchmark but only this log is left behind?

I could record it on my phone to show the blinking? The music is cool anyways lol.

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/10/31/7bq.png

EDIT- Ok found it and linked it, so i dunno if this is a bad score for my card but ive seen people with over double with better cards lol
 
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Surveyor said:
If I'm looking at the right setting that one makes quite a big difference:

Without:

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With:

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Another reason for a "proper" screenshot.
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Well he has a 580 and its keeping up with him? And mine was at higher resolution?
 
Heres mine to his 580 with same settings



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So its not just artifacting but underperforming also?

I have ULed a vid on youtube, theres no tmuch artifacting but some closer to the end, its 4 mins long, so if you dont wanna watch i dont blame you, but your being very helpful to me so i am grateful just so you know ;)

Also upping the voltage is bad for cards? I can DL MSI AB and try but dont wanna make it worse incase they wont refund me?

Just looked through the vid the most noticable glitch is at 3.37, apart from that you cant tell, when i ran the 1920x1080 it was more common blinking like this kind.

Its nowhere near as bad as Skyrim however, or the desktop.
 
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Your card's performance is fine :)

Link to video pls?

Upping voltage can be bad, but if you do it in small increments (0.005v) at a time, you can't really do much harm.

Either that, or decrease the clocks a little to see if the artefacting stops, this will not harm your cards at all, but it will of course decrease the performance.

Of upping the voltage does work, then it's up to you whether you still want to return it for a card that works at stock as it should or whether you want to keep it and just live with it.

There's no way OcUK or gigabyte can tell if you've over clocked unless you actually tell them.
 
So the voltage is 1.138 at load so up it to 1.143?

Still uploading youtube is slow lol.

The easiest way to check is Skyrim i have no other game which is in your face as much.

Ill try underclock first see what happens at 860 instead of 975.

Cheers for the help bud this is doing my head in!
 
Nah Still artifacting in Skyrim :(

Do you think i should ask for a full refund and get the MSI 7850? 2x Gigabyte bad or 3rd time lucky?

Gigabyte has 75mhz more OC as default this is why i grabbed it.

I just dont understand any of this!

Also;

1920x1080
1526 - AMD 7850 - dhill
1515 - AMD 7850 - Jewish Afghan
1461 - AMD 7850 - kharma45
1457 - AMD 7850 - Arron17

Maybe OCed above 975? Mine was pretty low.
 
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