New Computer (Gaming)

HaloUK · 19 Sep 2013 at 13:48

Just want to pick up on you saying the two SSD's you wanted... 1TB is NOT a big SSD. You will run our of space in no time flat if your wanting it to store games on. I would recommend you getting at least a 3t 6Gb/s HDD and getting a smaller 60gb cache drive for your games drive D: and a decent sized 6 Gb/s SSD for your C: drive. Sorted!

DaleTheWhale · 19 Sep 2013 at 14:32

HaloUK said:
Just want to pick up on you saying the two SSD's you wanted... 1TB is NOT a big SSD. You will run our of space in no time flat if your wanting it to store games on. I would recommend you getting at least a 3t 6Gb/s HDD and getting a smaller 60gb cache drive for your games drive D: and a decent sized 6 Gb/s SSD for your C: drive. Sorted!

Games are like 8GB max with exceptions to others like BF3, I don't see why you'd need to have 100 games installed at one time?

1TB is way overkill, when you can install everything you need on a 256GB SSD and still have space, it would be silly to install so many games at once.

snips86x · 19 Sep 2013 at 14:56

ThaReaperGuy said:
Games are like 8GB max with exceptions to others like BF3, I don't see why you'd need to have 100 games installed at one time?

1TB is way overkill, when you can install everything you need on a 256GB SSD and still have space, it would be silly to install so many games at once.

+1

That's how i manage mine! Works fine.

David Bisset · 19 Sep 2013 at 15:18

Gerard93 said:
Dual 7970's is greater than just one Gtx 780? Just I'm wanting this computer to last me a solid 4/5 years atleast before I even have to think about upgrading a single piece so wanting to range stuff.

Yep. Much better. It's like about 1.7 times a gtx 780. A single 7970 Matrix Platinum is quite close to as good as a single 780, for substantially cheaper which is why people say the 780s are bad value. Great cards, but overpriced unfortunately (Not as overpriced as a Titan though!)

To explain my choices in SSD's - Small one for windows/key programs, big SSD for games. And I'm gonna use my HD from this computer for junk (Music/Movies/Silly files and what not).

You can, of course, do whatever you wish. I'd probably just go with one decent sized SSD (~256GB to ~512 GB) for Windows & games, keeping your idea of old normal drive for junk as you put it

Gerard93 · 19 Sep 2013 at 20:39

Ethermaster said:
A colour that you don't see to often .... Green !!!!

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 PCI-Express 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99 (£999.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £143.99 (£287.98)
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £114.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
2 x Avexir Venom Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIG) - Green Light £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Green £28.45
6 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Shamrock PWM Fan £14.99 (£89.94)
2 x Akasa "Vegas" White LED strip light - 60cm £8.99 (£17.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.49
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Green £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Green £4.99 (£9.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Green £4.49
Total : £2,917.15 (includes shipping : £20.10).

I like it, Dont like the case however and may change the hard drives.

snips86x said:
I see what your getting at for the SSDs, but why limit yourself with the potential too have not enough space when you could have ample with2x250/256gb SSDs?

How Will I not have enough space? 120gb SSD/1TB SSD/500GB HD in one pc? Sounds like plenty even though my games alone take up atleast 500GB

So dual 7970's it will be I guess if I dont go for dual Gtx 780's.

Anyone else got any ideas for builds?

Ethermaster · 19 Sep 2013 at 20:46

Gerard93 said:
I like it, Dont like the case however and may change the hard drives.

Errr what HDD's?

Gerard93 · 19 Sep 2013 at 20:58

Ethermaster said:
Errr what HDD's?

SSD sorry, to a bigger one and a smaller one

Doomedspeed · 19 Sep 2013 at 21:24

Gerard93 said:
SSD sorry, to a bigger one and a smaller one

Im still not sure thats the best idea... Spending nearly £600 on SSD's when for half that you can get 500GB of SSD space which will be a good 50%+ quicker? And then additional 2-3TB hard drive for the rest of the junk.

and a nice £200 saved..

I think thats a better idea.

Gerard93 · 19 Sep 2013 at 21:40

Doomedspeed said:
Im still not sure thats the best idea... Spending nearly £600 on SSD's when for half that you can get 500GB of SSD space which will be a good 50%+ quicker? And then additional 2-3TB hard drive for the rest of the junk.

and a nice £200 saved..

I think thats a better idea.

Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

Deus Ex · 19 Sep 2013 at 21:50

Gerard93 said:
Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

Their is no good reason not to split them, you are getting some quality advice here, I would listen to it. get ~256gb ssd and a 3tb drive. 256 tb is enough for Windows 8, all productivity software (office etc) and 100gb of games, with 50gb left spare. Put your documents, music, videos and games you dont access often on the hard drive.

p.s. I'd also go 16gb ram and run a 4gb ram drive. Put firefox cache and a 2gb swap file on their.

Doomedspeed · 19 Sep 2013 at 21:52

Gerard93 said:
Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

Yes tere is but im saying its not ideal..

The way its works in my setup SSD and HDD is the executable will be installed to your SSD and the bulk of the install is on your HDD.. So the game loads up quickly without need for a lot of space.

Lets say its a 10GB install, 9.7GB of that is on my HDD and 0.3GB on the SSD. And thats 300 games fully installed and only using 90GB off sSD space and 3TB of HDD space..

That cost a fraction of the price..

Why does it matter being split over two? It'll all load from the same pace anyway..

Gerard93 · 19 Sep 2013 at 22:02

Doomedspeed said:
Im still not sure thats the best idea... Spending nearly £600 on SSD's when for half that you can get 500GB of SSD space which will be a good 50%+ quicker? And then additional 2-3TB hard drive for the rest of the junk.

and a nice £200 saved..

I think thats a better idea.

Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

Gerard93 · 19 Sep 2013 at 23:43

Deus Ex said:
Their is no good reason not to split them, you are getting some quality advice here, I would listen to it. get ~256gb ssd and a 3tb drive. 256 tb is enough for Windows 8, all productivity software (office etc) and 100gb of games, with 50gb left spare. Put your documents, music, videos and games you dont access often on the hard drive.

p.s. I'd also go 16gb ram and run a 4gb ram drive. Put firefox cache and a 2gb swap file on their.

hmm

i'll toy about with the build again tonight and link you guys to a knew one!

Gerard93 · 20 Sep 2013 at 03:04

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2784-KR) £551.99 (£1,103.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD500BW) £271.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
1 x Avexir MPower Red Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-22400C12 2800MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U28001204G-2CI) £169.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Asus Xonar D1 7.1 PCI Sound Card £52.99
Total : £2,675.33 (includes shipping : £13.75).

Can anyone finish this build/tell me something wrong with it? (Bare in mind needs decent cooling for overclocking of the CPU

snips86x · 20 Sep 2013 at 05:54

Your going backwards mate, the advise you've been given is sound and your not taking it. Since your not buying till October, this is slightly pointless.

There is also a whole host of issues with that build!

I'm done!!

Doomedspeed · 20 Sep 2013 at 06:02

I agree with snips

Ethermaster · 20 Sep 2013 at 06:18

Come on listen to us, we're trying to help you. There is lots wrong with that spec.

Deus Ex · 20 Sep 2013 at 09:39

Before you buy that basket, get your post count to 1000, I fancy buying some of that second hand stuff when you realise you've ballsed up the build list...

Gerard93 · 20 Sep 2013 at 11:23

Finee finee, I'll stop messing around.

Ethermaster said:
A colour that you don't see to often .... Green !!!!

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 PCI-Express 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99 (£999.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £143.99 (£287.98)
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £114.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
2 x Avexir Venom Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIG) - Green Light £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Green £28.45
6 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Shamrock PWM Fan £14.99 (£89.94)
2 x Akasa "Vegas" White LED strip light - 60cm £8.99 (£17.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.49
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Green £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Green £4.99 (£9.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Green £4.49
Total : £2,917.15 (includes shipping : £20.10).

I guess I'll go for this one then, only problems are I dont really like this case (Can anyone think of a possible change of case) and it doesnt have a Soundcard (Would it be able to fit one?) Also is it possible to change to blue rather than green

In regards to selling 2nd hand parts, once I get this I'll have a lot to sell from this pc, too bad I cant sell them on here

Doomedspeed · 20 Sep 2013 at 11:36

Gerard93 said:
I guess I'll go for this one then, only problems are I dont really like this case (Can anyone think of a possible change of case) and it doesnt have a Soundcard (Would it be able to fit one?) Also is it possible to change to blue rather than green

Haha! that made me laugh.. Atleast we have a nice framework to work off now..

So you want "the Big Green machine" to be the "Non-so big Blue and Black Machine"?

Ill get on it.