New engine in the Clio :D
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Yeah, there are a fair few 16v engines knocking about and I want one bad.
I very nearly went for a 1.8RSi as it was only £600inc fitting but i think i'll hold out for a valver.
Was also going to fit the RSi brakes at 239mm but decided to wait for a set of 259mm valver ones.
What's up with the valver brakes then? You're right though my bendix ones are awful, what size are the brakes on the 1.4 anyway? Have you seen the K-tec big brake conversion? 285mm goodness
but probably too much.
Ideally i'd want a williams but who wouldn't? they cost a lot
Do the Willy lumps get over the gearbox probs of the vavler?
I very nearly went for a 1.8RSi as it was only £600inc fitting but i think i'll hold out for a valver.
Was also going to fit the RSi brakes at 239mm but decided to wait for a set of 259mm valver ones.
What's up with the valver brakes then? You're right though my bendix ones are awful, what size are the brakes on the 1.4 anyway? Have you seen the K-tec big brake conversion? 285mm goodness
but probably too much.Ideally i'd want a williams but who wouldn't? they cost a lot
Do the Willy lumps get over the gearbox probs of the vavler?
Nope, Williams/Megane boxes are the same - just a geared for higher top end speed in 5th, they're still made from chocolate.
Standard RT brakes are solid 239mm. Valver brakes are easy to come by these days, and bolt straight back in. Don't forget to bleed and change the fluid though.
The K-tec kit is just R21 TXE brakes, albeit with spacer brackets. Certainly not worth the money they're charging for it.
Regarding engines:
www.hillpower.co.uk
Call em up and speak to Nick. I bet he could source a 1.8 16v and fit it cheaply enough. Cheaper if you're an RSC member too.
Standard RT brakes are solid 239mm. Valver brakes are easy to come by these days, and bolt straight back in. Don't forget to bleed and change the fluid though.
The K-tec kit is just R21 TXE brakes, albeit with spacer brackets. Certainly not worth the money they're charging for it.
Regarding engines:
www.hillpower.co.uk
Call em up and speak to Nick. I bet he could source a 1.8 16v and fit it cheaply enough. Cheaper if you're an RSC member too.
My garage have a mint 19 in for spares, the abs gubbins has gone on it and the parts and labour to sort it isn't much less than the car is worth, so they are breaking it 
So if anyone wants a nice valver engine
I've also got a PAS pump from a 19 but think they are diff to the Clio ones, you coulda had it for free if it would fit (ask Nick?). I bought it off Paul M a couple of years ago as we thought mine was leaking, it wasn't so it never got fitted.
So if anyone wants a nice valver engine
I've also got a PAS pump from a 19 but think they are diff to the Clio ones, you coulda had it for free if it would fit (ask Nick?). I bought it off Paul M a couple of years ago as we thought mine was leaking, it wasn't so it never got fitted.
Lowe said:The missus happened.
We moved in together and a 20mpg Clio really wasn't practical so I had to sell her on. Sadly within a week of being sold she blew up. She's now been bought by a lad off the owners club for £200 and is in the process of being rebuilt, kitted and generally 'maxed'.
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I bought a Megane Coupe and had that for a while, then Doll got a company car so I had chance to buy his Clio 16v off him. I jumped at the chance, and all was going well till I showed it a set of rollers and the bottom end gave me the middle finger..
apart from the boot, thats the same colour as mine
don't see many of them in that colour.as for performance. well. must be fairly quick
my brothers mate just got a 1.8 mk2 golf gti and my brother has the mk4 gt-tdi,
... and my little clio kept right up with them to about 120
What engine did the R21 TXE have to warrant 285mm brakes as standard
So if I got these calipers and carriers what else would I need? Do K-tek make the bespoke brackets? Is that why it's that expensive?
They really fill the wheels and look and probably perform awsome.
So if I got these calipers and carriers what else would I need? Do K-tek make the bespoke brackets? Is that why it's that expensive?
They really fill the wheels and look and probably perform awsome.
It's the 21TXI that has 285mm brakes (2L N/A). 21 Turbo also has 285mm brakes but they're 5 stud so you can't use them on a 19/clio.
The 1.8 16v engines are not 'unreliable' it's just that they get thrashed and neglected.
Williams/Megane JC5 box is stronger then the 16V JB3. Also, for some reason I've never heard of a GTT JB3 popping the clip out
Clio 16V/willy PAS pump is the same as the 19 16v and the 2.0 F7R megane.
The 1.8 16v engines are not 'unreliable' it's just that they get thrashed and neglected.
Williams/Megane JC5 box is stronger then the 16V JB3. Also, for some reason I've never heard of a GTT JB3 popping the clip out
Clio 16V/willy PAS pump is the same as the 19 16v and the 2.0 F7R megane.
AmDaMan said:What engine did the R21 TXE have to warrant 285mm brakes as standard
Wouldn't have to be anything too special, they're a big car!
Guybrush said:
So if you want a "new" second hand PAS pump Lowe lemme know!
It's been sat in a box here for about three and a half years
MSN/Mail in trust, you can have it.
Lowe said:I've done it again.
Since the 1.8 blew up (my fault, it died on a rolling road power run) I needed to get her back on the road. So, I was lucky enough to source a Spider Cup racing engine.
Basicly it's the same engine as the 1.8, but stroked (iirc) a little to bring it to a 2.0l. The sump's slightly bigger, and the head's a little different and it's got some slightly wilder cams in it. The engine's been blueprinted, balanced, the valves are triple angle jobbies, compression's been raised by skimming the head and decking the bottom end... Needless to say, it's a pretty good spec. It's capable of revving to 8k on the race management, but I'm running a basic remap of the factory settings which limits the fun to 6.8k - but to be honest there's no need to take it that far.
Whilst the engine was out it had a few new things thrown in as well - new clutch, gearbox, PAS pump (which is buggered now, joy), water pump, all the belts, steering bushes, filters etc, so she drives like a new car. It's still economical too - 35-40mpg on a run which i thought was more than acceptable.
Only niggles so far are the PAS pump which is on the way out and the exhaust which is knocking since things have been moved about. I'm going to get a midbox put in to help give a bit more backpressure soon and whilst they're at it get them to fix it in place a bit better!
Good choice of engine. Always liked the Renault Spider *well the European version without the screen* Totally loopy.
Get it re-mapped though - My Megane does 6.8k and is fun...Would love another 1.2k on top.
However 35mpg?? HOW? 28mpg here on my daily trawl with the F5R engine.
Simon/~Flibster
Guybrush said:It's the 21TXI that has 285mm brakes (2L N/A). 21 Turbo also has 285mm brakes but they're 5 stud so you can't use them on a 19/clio.
The 1.8 16v engines are not 'unreliable' it's just that they get thrashed and neglected.
Williams/Megane JC5 box is stronger then the 16V JB3. Also, for some reason I've never heard of a GTT JB3 popping the clip out
Clio 16V/willy PAS pump is the same as the 19 16v and the 2.0 F7R megane.
TXE / TXI - I can never remember which is which
Regarding unreliability, it was the car in general that I was refering to rather than the lump itself. As you say, they tend to get neglected these days since they're cheap money now.
I managed my GTT on the standard Clio RT box, with no problems whatsoever despite running silly torque through the box (150+ lbs/ft). A new driveshaft let go before the box did.
Ev0 said:
Ev0 - YGM pal
Flibster - I can only imagine it's to do with the mapping. Also, that's with staying off the second throttle. Once you push through that and the second butterfly opens, it drinks fuel like you can't believe.