New filters for the win

how does double declutching make gear changes smooth?
you say it was how you was taught, when did you learn to drive?
what is wrong with your changes that a single clutch down, select gear, clutch up that it is not smooth?
 
Greg said:
and when I double-de-clutch
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Not trying to be funny, but why not just say "when changing gear"?

Saying "when I double-de-clutch" just makes you sound like you're desperately trying to impress people.
 
Greg said:
I drive how I like, its how I've been taught. I double de clutch to make smooth gear changes, not because I HAVE to becasue of the car. I don't see the problem with this. I didn't put it in to 'act hard' because to be quite frank, why do I need to act hard on a bloody Internet forum?
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I don't know, why do you? You must know, becuase you did it - like volospian said, why mention it instead of just saying 'change gear' otherwise?

Just because YOU say that its daft, doesn't mean its the be all and end all. There are OTHER drivers out there who find it easier to use other methods and as I've said, I drive how I've been taught. I like a smooth ride, not a jerky bumpy one. Its all down to personal preference so don't bad mouth me because of my preferences.
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It doesn't make it smoother though - it simply makes your gearchanges take longer. There is absolutely no need to do it in a diesel Mondeo.

Some of you wonder why people avoid the Motors forum.
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Becuase they can't pull the wool over everyones eyes?

Seen as no one can be bothered to keep it on topic you can close this thread.

Not the response I was after!
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I'm sorry, would you like us to massage your ego and praise your new panel filter highly?
 
:D Comedy thread - Fox must be a right so and so down the pub.

Good news on the panel filter and dont let people bother you :cool:
 
Goatyman said:
:D Comedy thread - Fox must be a right so and so down the pub.
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Because..

a) Im the only one to have taken the mick. Oh, it would appear im not
b) We all act down the pub with our mates the same as do with random people on the internet

:p
 
I think he is probably talking about rev matching/ heel and toe.

Double de clutching serves no purpose in terms of smooth gear changes.
In fact it will probably just wear your clutch assembly and also your foot out.

Don't get so wound up Greg, once you get used to Fox's trolling, its really not so bad here :p
 
Greg said:
I drive how I like, its how I've been taught. I double de clutch to make smooth gear changes, not because I HAVE to becasue of the car. I don't see the problem with this. I didn't put it in to 'act hard' because to be quite frank, why do I need to act hard on a bloody Internet forum? I don't see why some people have to behave in such a childish manner?!

Just because YOU say that its daft, doesn't mean its the be all and end all. There are OTHER drivers out there who find it easier to use other methods and as I've said, I drive how I've been taught. I like a smooth ride, not a jerky bumpy one. Its all down to personal preference so don't bad mouth me because of my preferences.

Some of you wonder why people avoid the Motors forum.

Seen as no one can be bothered to keep it on topic you can close this thread.

Not the response I was after!
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i think its odd how threads mentioning H&T or DDC cause such a stir.

i H&T all the time, its just a matter of course for me. done it on all the cars ive had. just means you can make down changes quicker and smoother, it sounds good when done right :p and you can minimise upsetting the balance of the car whilst down change through gears sequentially whilst braking.

it will reduce clutch wear and syncromesh wear, which will be handy on my car which has almost 165k miles now.
 
Gaijin said:
Don't get so wound up Greg, once you get used to Fox's trolling, its really not so bad here :p
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Why is it always me? Did you notice notice the posts in this thread from Lashout, MrSix, Simon and? They were all suitably amused by the notion of double de clutching a diesel Mondeo as well but of course, I'm trolling and they are not. <3 ocuk :D

Infact you also criticised it yourself, pot kettle black :p
 
Matt82 said:
i think its odd how threads mentioning H&T or DDC cause such a stir.

i H&T all the time, its just a matter of course for me. done it on all the cars ive had. just means you can make down changes quicker and smoother, it sounds good when done right :p and you can minimise upsetting the balance of the car whilst down change through gears sequentially whilst braking.

it will reduce clutch wear and syncromesh wear, which will be handy on my car which has almost 165k miles now.
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absolutely, no one is disputing the pros/cons of heel and toe.

They are jumping on him because he said he double de clutches a newish diesel mondeo. For which we are still waiting to see the apparent benefits of.

I see no point in giving him grief for it like others. He can either justify himself or admit error.

We all make silly errors, the automobile is such a broad subject, no one is going to know everything. Of course it seems that not everyone understands that and just resort to taking the **** to make themselves feel better.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Why is it always me? Did you notice notice the posts in this thread from Lashout, MrSix, Simon and? They were all suitably amused by the notion of double de clutching a diesel Mondeo as well but of course, I'm trolling and they are not. <3 ocuk :D

Infact you also criticised it yourself, pot kettle black :p
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Dont know mate, it always seems that you lead from the front (usually because you respond first, or at least respond strongly first)and some people just seem to "yeah, yeah" after you posted something.

Not being funny or anything but ive noticed a lot of your recent posts pick holes in people when it just really isnt necessary. Yes, some people are idiots and some people arent particularly clued about about certain aspects of motoring but I dont see why you cant just educate instead of trying to put their nose out of joint.

Sorry if that offends you but thats how I feel about it.

On this instance, I absolutely agree with you - i just choose not to be as hardline as you.

Ive asked him to clarify why he does it, not dish it out to him because he has posted something silly.

I wouldnt expect you to change how you post at all, but similar to as you say to others - dont expect people to just accept it if they disagree with you.

You obviously have a wealth of knowledge in that head of yours Fox, I just feel your delivery lets you down.
 
Gaijin said:
absolutely, no one is disputing the pros/cons of heel and toe.

They are jumping on him because he said he double de clutches a newish diesel mondeo. For which we are still waiting to see the apparent benefits of.

I see no point in giving him grief for it like others. He can either justify himself or admit error.

We all make silly errors, the automobile is such a broad subject, no one is going to know everything. Of course it seems that not everyone understands that and just resort to taking the **** to make themselves feel better.
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well DDC, whilst pretty much mechanically pointless on a almost new car (most likely a company car etc) i imagine it would give a smoother down change if you got it right but.. still pretty pointless.

maybe he means he gives a small blip whilst between gears on a downchange to match the revs etc.

*shrug*

whatever the case, he likes his new filter :D
 
barnettgs said:
Sounds good...anyone has one too?

Next time, try not to put K&N panel filter and DDC together in the same thread! :D
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as for the filter itself, garanteed for a lifetime etc... ill one day post up a pic of the one that came with my car.

the gauze basically has relatively large 1mm ish holes which cant be filtering much etc... so i binned mine
 
[TW]Fox said:
Why is it always me? Did you notice notice the posts in this thread from Lashout, MrSix, Simon and? They were all suitably amused by the notion of double de clutching a diesel Mondeo as well but of course, I'm trolling and they are not. <3 ocuk :D

Infact you also criticised it yourself, pot kettle black :p
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I was just playing the role of token black guy (ElRazur was nowhere to be seen) and wanted to spice up 'dis shizzle' dawg.

But still, the only mention "double de" anything that would gain you my respect in motors is if you're talking about norks.
 
Gaijin said:
I think he is probably talking about rev matching/ heel and toe.

Double de clutching serves no purpose in terms of smooth gear changes.
In fact it will probably just wear your clutch assembly and also your foot out.

Don't get so wound up Greg, once you get used to Fox's trolling, its really not so bad here :p
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Hey, I'm not wound up at all, its rather funny that Fox thinks I'm trying to act big on the internet. I really have no need to boast or 'willy wave' or what ever you want to call it. (LOL, as you pointed out, I drive a Mondeo!? :p) Its probably the only place he can act big, on the internet, anyway :P

Sometimes I really don't know how to reply to someone like Fox, it seems that he's just the kind of person thats arguementative at every given oppourtunity. Typical BMW driver I supose! :p

Your absolutley right Gaijin, it serves no purpose what so ever, I've never said it was essencial, however, I find it useful because when I do it, it makes a smoother gear change. For example, when I'm chainging from crusing in 6th down to 3rd, rather than get the judder, or introduce the clutch slowly, I double de cluth. (or thats what i've been told it is, someone may say its somthing different).

I never realised how restricting the standard filter is in comparison to this K&N one. My question is, why do they bother putting standard filters in when they manufacture the car? I supose its the spares thing isn't it. more money?!
 
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