New google phone

[Amp34]

It looks like google are on to a winner with the Nexus. It seems to have all the right bits for a succesful phone that can take on the iPhone... Good marketing...

It's everywhere, on the mainstream news, magazines, internet and even non tech people are talking about it (my dad mentioned it to me the other day).

Now obviously i'm sure it's a good phone but it's not revolutionary is it? There are plenty of phones with the same hardware out or coming out (for both android and WM) and the software is no different to other android phones (other than the occasional tweak).

I jusst don't quite see the fascination with it (tbh I find it ugly compared to the HD2 and even the Hero).

(EDIT: just looking at the latest video in the other thread it looks like a slightly curvier and thicker Touch HD (obviously in grey), still a bit of a step backwards in syling though. )

 

[GJ02]

i do have an iphone
the android system is pants
ive had g1 and hero, apple will win everytime, jailbreak the iphone and the world is your oyster

 

[jamief]

i do have an iphone
the android system is pants
ive had g1 and hero, apple will win everytime, jailbreak the iphone and the world is your oyster

I also have an iPhone, but I actually prefer Android. Apples single-app, locked down platform is very restrictive - yes, you can jailbreak it, but you still can't do half the stuff you can with Android. I mean, my 3G can't even record video out of the box!

 

[Janesy B]

i do have an iphone
the android system is pants
ive had g1 and hero, apple will win everytime, jailbreak the iphone and the world is your oyster

Going to give any reasons/explaination other than just 'pants'?

 

[GJ02]

you can now tho
android is like 2 years behind

 

[GJ02]

Going to give any reasons/explaination other than just 'pants'?

its slow, non responsive at times, it crashes, the battery life is worse than the iphone,
thats all there is to know
like i said ive had g1 and hero none of them impressed me

i would have nothing from google, they want to take over the world, wouldnt surprise me if they can take over your google phone

 

[Janesy B]

its slow, non responsive at times, it crashes, the battery life is worse than the iphone,
thats all there is to know
like i said ive had g1 and hero none of them impressed me

i would have nothing from google, they want to take over the world, wouldnt surprise me if they can take over your google phone

Are these device specific issues and not platform based issues?

 

[mrk]

Considering the Nexus 1 is better than the iPhone in virtually every spec I fail to see the Op and some others are trying to make in this thread other than to post their dislike for anything not iPhone.

I myself have the HTC Magic running the latest Cyanogen ROM and it's fast enough for the spec of the phone and gets me a whole day of usage with GPS/3G and some WiFi usage throughout the day.

It's a hilarious excuse from some of the people above, Google trying to take over the world? Please. Apple are the exact opposite, you're being spoon fed new features that are old features on competing handhelds and when they do release them they're marketed as the best thing ever (copy and paste anyone?) and you get what Apple say you get, nothing more nothing less. Oh and if your phone gets caught jailbroken then your phone can be turned into a brick by Apple unless de-bricking methods have improved lately.

 

[Yas786]

its slow, non responsive at times, it crashes, the battery life is worse than the iphone,
thats all there is to know
like i said ive had g1 and hero none of them impressed me

i would have nothing from google, they want to take over the world, wouldnt surprise me if they can take over your google phone

Battery life worse than the iphone???...i find that very hard to believe...the Magic i had out lasted most of friends iphones time and time again...although turning off half the stuff on the iphone meant u got a bit longer battery life.

As for google taking over your phone??..you on drugs or something there fella??...if anyone takes over a phone its your precious iphone...how locked down is it??...oh sure you can 'illegally' jailbreak it but would suck balls to be you if anything goes wrong with your iphone and you have to send it back to Apple who will probably charge you an arm and leg to fix it or they may not even touch it.

At least with Android its open source and not closed off like the iphone...sure the iphone is a good device but i think iphone/Apple need to really improve the next iphone to compete with Android and thats a good thing in all honesty.

 

[britboy4321]

Considering the Nexus 1 is better than the iPhone in virtually every spec I fail to see the Op and some others are trying to make in this thread other than to post their dislike for anything not iPhone.

I am the OP and I've never had an Iphone.

I was comparing it to the HTC magic that I currently have.

I clearly said this in the very second sentence of the OP of the thread!



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[Janesy B]

I am the OP and I've never had an Iphone.

I was comparing it to the HTC magic that I currently have.

I clearly said this in the very second sentence of the OP of the thread!



!!

So it's not good because, let's say, the GMail application looks the same on both devices? Is this what you are saying?

 

[reflux]

I can see where the OP is going. Nexus One is a nice phone, but it's only exactly what Android should have launched with a year ago.

 

[britboy4321]

So it's not good because, let's say, the GMail application looks the same on both devices? Is this what you are saying?

MRK suggested that I didn't like it because I didn't like anything that was not an Iphone.

I then said to him that I didn't even have an Iphone (repeating what I had said in the OP)


What I'm saying is that this phone just looks like another HTC release. It looks in every way very very VERY similar to the Magic that I have. It looks like the next, not particularly big step, in a line of HTC releases. Not like anything wonderfully new and amazing. In any way.

Yet this was supposed to be 'google's first phone' or something. The hype said it was supposed to be something special - somethiong cool - different - full of good stuff. in reality I have one here it's not remotely special -- it's just a small enhancement from the Magic. It's no big deal. It does very little better than the magic -- virtually nothing I can see. Don't bother.

 

[GJ02]

if anything goes wrong with your iphone and you have to send it back to Apple who will probably charge you an arm and leg to fix it or they may not even touch it.
.

no i'd just buy a new one

both the android and apple systems are far better one rooted or jailbroken, hell why do you think apple have just approved a whole bunch of camcorder apps for the 3g, so users dont jailbreak and get cycorder ( which is still better than any camcorder app on itunes )
end of the day its down to preference, ive had 2 googles and 1 apple and for me apple performs a whole lot better for what i want

 

[Skeeter]

To be honest, I dont think any of you with smart phones are the target audience.

Of course comming from a 3GS or top end Android this wont be much of a change. Its more aimed at people who have bog standard phones and would, untill now, buy an iPhone. Now they have similar performance and 2 iPhone style handsets to choose from.

 

[mrk]

Well it's good it does what you want, that's all that matters end of the day but usually those of us specifically wanting a particular phone running Android have a specific set of requirements, something Apple cannot give in the iPhone - when I got my Magic I knew of the dev community so knew it would get faster once rooted and updated and it has. The term "there's an app for that" can be shared with Android just as much as iPhone as well.

The Droid (Milestone for EU) and Nexus One are the first proper next gen Android phones with Snapdragon class processors, the Nexus is faster than the iPhone, it has double the screen resolution of previous phones so web surfing is a better experience and it has more RAM to boot so multitasking is much easier as well. The camera records at DVD resolutions for video and stills aren't bad either. Oh yeah these Android phones also play HD video files (AVC/h264 formatssupported) and the new Bravo coming soon records at 720P.

For all intents the Nexus/Droid or the soon to be released Bravo from HTC are the phones to get and these are Gen 2 Android phones, iPhone is in its 3rd generation so technically should have been far ahead but it no longer is and if news articles comparing popularity growth of Android vs iPhone are to be believed then it's only going to rocket up the next 11 months with the multitude of Android phones coming out running these high specs.

This is what happens when you release a highly customisable phone OS and an open Market service to multiple hardware vendors instead of keeping it all to yourself (Apple) and having the last say on what gets released.

 

[SteveOBHave]

Quick someone tell Google that the've created the same phone only better, but not, but faster, but it's the same... oh wait... erm... crap...

Where was I going with this?... ...can I repeat myself in another few posts, ignore everyone elses posts where they explain the differences in clear English and then repeat myself again? Sweet - forums are so cool because I can be whoever I want to be!

 

[Demon]

Well it's good it does what you want, that's all that matters end of the day but usually those of us specifically wanting a particular phone running Android have a specific set of requirements, something Apple cannot give in the iPhone - when I got my Magic I knew of the dev community so knew it would get faster once rooted and updated and it has. The term "there's an app for that" can be shared with Android just as much as iPhone as well.

The Droid (Milestone for EU) and Nexus One are the first proper next gen Android phones with Snapdragon class processors, the Nexus is faster than the iPhone, it has double the screen resolution of previous phones so web surfing is a better experience and it has more RAM to boot so multitasking is much easier as well. The camera records at DVD resolutions for video and stills aren't bad either. Oh yeah these Android phones also play HD video files (AVC/h264 formatssupported) and the new Bravo coming soon records at 720P.

For all intents the Nexus/Droid or the soon to be released Bravo from HTC are the phones to get and these are Gen 2 Android phones, iPhone is in its 3rd generation so technically should have been far ahead but it no longer is and if news articles comparing popularity growth of Android vs iPhone are to be believed then it's only going to rocket up the next 11 months with the multitude of Android phones coming out running these high specs.

This is what happens when you release a highly customisable phone OS and an open Market service to multiple hardware vendors instead of keeping it all to yourself (Apple) and having the last say on what gets released.

A good insight into the situation!

I have always wanted an iPhone for it's sheer 'glitz', but the geek in me has always stopped me ordering one..

I haven't had a new phone for a few years, but did buy a cheap HTC Hero second hand, just to see what all the fuss about Android was about.

So now, after having had it a few weeks, I'm pretty amazed, especially running one of the well developed Modaco ROMS, the HTC Sense UI is actually very slick and so customisable.

When I now borrow one of my friends iPhones, I instantly now feel the UI is 'old' and quite clunky, with no real widgets, no real integration of all the social networking etc seemlessly alongside SMS etc..

Apple need to (and I'm sure they will) overhaul the UI now for the iPhone, they are really starting to lag in usability and integration features.. it'll be interesting to see how they respond, lets hope it's not by sticking their heads in the sand..

 

[Amp34]

Why is everyone bashing the OP? He's essentially saying that it's no big advancement and just another update of the android platform. Considering he is the only one out of you that has actually used one it's a bit odd that you lot are bashing him for saying there's not much difference (which tbh I expected). It's just an update with some good marketing by google (who themselves are almost as good as Apple at that).

Just look at the marketing. Mysterious twitter posts about some kind of super phone from google employees who suddenly get their hands on them followed by a press conference and full spec release a week or so later, then the phone release a couple of weeks after that. Sound farmiliar? Exactly what Apple do, and what all phone manufacturers need to start doing.

Yes it is another phone better than the iPhone (there are about half a dozen out there already) but this one may succeed, not because it is substantially different, but because it has such great marketing.

 

[fezster]

MRK suggested that I didn't like it because I didn't like anything that was not an Iphone.

I then said to him that I didn't even have an Iphone (repeating what I had said in the OP)


What I'm saying is that this phone just looks like another HTC release. It looks in every way very very VERY similar to the Magic that I have. It looks like the next, not particularly big step, in a line of HTC releases. Not like anything wonderfully new and amazing. In any way.

Yet this was supposed to be 'google's first phone' or something. The hype said it was supposed to be something special - somethiong cool - different - full of good stuff. in reality I have one here it's not remotely special -- it's just a small enhancement from the Magic. It's no big deal. It does very little better than the magic -- virtually nothing I can see. Don't bother.

It's a phone made by HTC, so what do you expect it to look like other than "another HTC release" ?

Yes there's a lot of hype around it - and it's obviously worked, because for someone who knows about mobiles and the android OS, even you were expecting something revolutionary. Having said that, if you really knew much about android and / or the hardware used inside phones, you'd realise that this is an improved version of the OS, and the hardware is significantly better.

It's like a computer illiterate saying Microsoft Word 6 running on Windows 3.1 is the same as the latest version running on Windows 7. Or that the 8086 PC from 1978 looks like the same white box housing a Quad Core processor from 2009.

Don't mean to be harsh on you, but you're kind of missing the point when you say "there's no difference". And like others have said, there's a little green eyed envy showing when you have to shout to the world that what you have is just as good as something somebody else has bought.

Btw - I dont own an iphone, magic or a nexus.