New GPU - low fps with low gpu/cpu usage!

Ian Evey · 28 Nov 2016 at 19:46

rtalling said:
There are two PCIE connectors and one CPU connector all labelled - I've connected them the way they are labelled - is it worth trying to swap them around?

Not if the cables are hard wired into the psu.

Try a program called rmclock by googling rmclock, and use it in windows to set the ratio from x8 to x16 to see if the MHz changes to 1600mhz.

Temujin · 28 Nov 2016 at 19:54

rtalling said:
There are two PCIE connectors and one CPU connector all labelled - I've connected them the way they are labelled - is it worth trying to swap them around?

If they are the correct way around, then don't change it. It was only if they weren't labelled and you had mixed them up i figured it could be a thing!

Ricimer · 28 Nov 2016 at 19:56

rtalling said:
Sorry, whats HWiNFO?

Software for monitoring hardware sensors, https://www.hwinfo.com

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 28 Nov 2016 at 20:02

rtalling said:
In the bios? Cant find anything else like that!!

It's in windows.

andicole0 · 28 Nov 2016 at 20:20

8 pin power and 8 pin pcie are different, they should not fit in the wrong socket.
This is looking like a dodgy psu.
Andi.

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 20:22

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It's in windows.

There is no Hyper View - did I need to turn that off in windows before I turned off VTd in bios?

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 20:49

Ian Evey said:
Not if the cables are hard wired into the psu.

Try a program called rmclock by googling rmclock, and use it in windows to set the ratio from x8 to x16 to see if the MHz changes to 1600mhz.

I cant get rmclock to work properly - it doesn't recognise my cpu. It knows its Intel, but 'unkown model'

FredFlint · 28 Nov 2016 at 20:59

Have a look on this page, it shows where the compatibility and power settings are in the AMD software:http://www.pcworld.com/article/3093406/components-graphics/tested-amds-new-driver-fixes-the-radeon-rx-480s-power-draw-and-boosts-performance.html

chaosophy · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:10

rtalling said:
Some more info here:

In the bios with gpu in:
cpu frequency 800mhz (roughly)
BCLK100mhz
temp 23
voltage 0.828 V

Without the gpu

cpu frequency 3701mhz (roughly)
BCLK100mhz
temp 31
voltage 1.128 V

Does this tell us something about the power being supplied?

If it's doing this inbetween power ons, with out going into Windows at all between swapping the card in and out, you can probably not worry too much about any windows settings at the moment.

I see you've updated the BIOS and done a reset to defaults. Have you tried clearing the CMOS? Should be in the mobo manual somewhere, normally along the lines of removing the mobo battery or setting a jumper pin etc.
Might be worth clearing the CMOS and then re-flashing the latest BIOS again.

Looking at the spec posted there doesn't seem to be a lot of extra h/w but is there anything you can unplug or disable in BIOS?

As from your above post it looks like you can see the issue in BIOS without going into the o/s, you could unplug the HD, unplug any uneeded USB devices (don't really need a mouse for BIOS for example), disable onboard LAN, sound etc.

Probs not going to make a massive difference to power draw (certainly not compared to a CPU or GPU) but if you are at the limit it might be enough to get you under. But tbh PSU should be fine.

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:18

Oh well - looks like it's dead! Restarted, got 5 short beeps, which I think means the cpu is broken?!! Tried rebooting twice, same thing!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:21

rtalling said:
There is no Hyper View - did I need to turn that off in windows before I turned off VTd in bios?

I disabled VT-D and if you search for Hyper V in Cortana it should bring up a window and you will see it there - make sure you untick it.

rtalling said:
Oh well - looks like it's dead! Restarted, got 5 short beeps, which I think means the cpu is broken?!! Tried rebooting twice, same thing!

Unplug the system and remove the CMOS battery for a few minutes,put it back in and then see if the system reboots.

I wonder if the PSU has an issue.

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:24

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I disabled VT-D and if you search for Hyper V in Cortana it should bring up a window and you will see it there - make sure you untick it.

Thanks for all your help - but I think I've killed the bloody thing!! See previous post.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:29

rtalling said:
Thanks for all your help - but I think I've killed the bloody thing!! See previous post.

The PSU is quite new??

A CPU rarely dies - either the motherboard has gone,or the PSU has a fault.

It makes me wonder whether the PSU has a fault - the VS series are not that brilliant as PSUs go IMHO,and it probably didn't help you used a cheapo no-brand one before you bought the new card and PSU.

Edit!!

As I mentioned before:
" Unplug the system and remove the CMOS battery for a few minutes,put it back in and then see if the system reboots."

chaosophy · 28 Nov 2016 at 21:31

rtalling said:
Oh well - looks like it's dead! Restarted, got 5 short beeps, which I think means the cpu is broken?!! Tried rebooting twice, same thing!

As you've been in and out of the case a few times swapping the card in and out etc, double check you haven't knocked anything loose. I'd probably go all out and physically remove and replug things, rather than just give them a wiggle/push them back in.

And try resetting the CMOS.

I'd probably pull the power out the back of the CPU, disconnect everything, remove the mobo battery, go and have smoke, a NCoT, chill for a bit then put it all back together bit by bit.

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 22:04

chaosophy said:
As you've been in and out of the case a few times swapping the card in and out etc, double check you haven't knocked anything loose. I'd probably go all out and physically remove and replug things, rather than just give them a wiggle/push them back in.

And try resetting the CMOS.

I'd probably pull the power out the back of the CPU, disconnect everything, remove the mobo battery, go and have smoke, a NCoT, chill for a bit then put it all back together bit by bit.

Thanks - going to sleep on it, and try again fresh tomorrow. Thanks for all the help!

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 22:04

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The PSU is quite new??

A CPU rarely dies - either the motherboard has gone,or the PSU has a fault.

It makes me wonder whether the PSU has a fault - the VS series are not that brilliant as PSUs go IMHO,and it probably didn't help you used a cheapo no-brand one before you bought the new card and PSU.

Edit!!

As I mentioned before:
" Unplug the system and remove the CMOS battery for a few minutes,put it back in and then see if the system reboots."

Thanks - going to sleep on it, and try again fresh tomorrow. Thanks for all the help!

rtalling · 28 Nov 2016 at 22:10

To salvage this - any recommendations for a better choice of mobo and psu, presuming that the cpu is OK?

Lmg80 · 28 Nov 2016 at 22:23

The psu I speculated previously is probably the issue, no harm in trying one

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 28 Nov 2016 at 22:24

rtalling said:
To salvage this - any recommendations for a better choice of mobo and psu, presuming that the cpu is OK?

These both seem to be solid PSUs:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/supe...0-plus-gold-power-supply-black-ca-002-sf.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...lar-power-supply-cp-9020101-uk-ca-219-cs.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-pure-power-9-500w-80-plus-silver-power-supply-ca-11g-bq.html

AFAIK,these PSUs seem generally fine,and for a GTX1060 or RX480 a decent 450W to 500W PSU should be OK(I am running a GTX1080 off a decent 450W PSU for example).

Edit!!

The CX-M series is the newest(but less efficient) of the designs(uses a more modern design IIRC).

Lmg80 · 29 Nov 2016 at 09:08

CX850 Ive just returned as it had coil whine, I would look.at the other two psu