SkodaMart
SkodaMart
As you have blarbed on about the 660Ti I felt it right to point out the 7950 is a better option for the neutral buyer.
Sorry Rusty, you seem to have been beaten to it this time
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Sorry Rusty, you seem to have been beaten to it this time
Sorry Rusty, you seem to have been beaten to it this time
Well, the nature of a forum means that if one person says something there's no problem seconding, thirding etc what somebody else has said. Otherwise threads are going to be a bit boring if it's say a two-sided debate and one person takes one side and another takes the other and one is eccentric and the other is reasonable.... and that's it... two posts on the thread.
Sorry to be the one to explain this to you on how discussions work on a forum!
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
Well, the nature of a forum means that if one person says something there's no problem seconding, thirding etc what somebody else has said. Otherwise threads are going to be a bit boring if it's say a two-sided debate and one person takes one side and another takes the other and one is eccentric and the other is reasonable.... and that's it... two posts on the thread.
Sorry to be the one to explain this to you on how discussions work on a forum!
Which is exactly why I pointed out that the GTX 660 Ti wasn't poor at all, just currently overpriced for what it is.
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SkodaMart
SkodaMart
I have just picked up Batman off the Steam sale. I am running it maxed out, admittedly with only 4 x AA and it looks and plays fantastic.
Extreme detail and high tesselation.
I suspect that the i7 helps though, games and programs have never been smoother, cracking CPU.
Extreme detail and high tesselation.
I suspect that the i7 helps though, games and programs have never been smoother, cracking CPU.
I was responding to your comment which suggested there was some kind of problem recommending an AMD card when somebody already has:
Regarding:
I'm not entirely convinced it helps much at all for single GPUs. Most benchmarks show it doesn't at max settings and 1080p. Even multi-GPU set-up's gain only a little in my experience.
It is a great CPU though and if the prices of i7's remain pretty close to i5's I won't go back to an i5.
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SkodaMart
SkodaMart
I looked more like another attack on the 660Ti than it did a recommendation for the HD 7950? 
From what I have read, I think i'm the only person who has a GTX 660 Ti
I expect that the price of these cards will plummet before long as everyone seems to go for either the GTX 670 or the HD 7950.
From what I have read, I think i'm the only person who has a GTX 660 Ti
I expect that the price of these cards will plummet before long as everyone seems to go for either the GTX 670 or the HD 7950.
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SkodaMart
SkodaMart
I agree, I came from an i5 750 @3.4 GHz and I much prefer the i7.
Sold the i5 because I had problems with the socket 1156 mobo.
I looked more like another attack on the 660Ti than it did a recommendation for the HD 7950?
Well that's just a statement of fact. It is poor compared to a 7950 on paper and in games. It's not surprising though the 660Ti's competitor is hierarchically a 7870. It's like comparing a 580 to a 6970 or a 7970 GHz Ed to a 670...
They're just in different places these cards and the only thing that binds a 660Ti to a 7950 is its price which is actually quite poor on nVidia's side when you consider a 7950 is a clearly better card in comparison. Their pricing has been pretty poor since AMDs prices dropped actually which doesn't matter to people who have purchased already. But in a way it just means they can't compete for neutral buyers who have no real preference as AMD offer both better value for money and a better games package (IMO).
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SkodaMart
SkodaMart
I must admit, I was shocked when I looked the price of the GTX 660 Ti had risen!
I have nothing good at all to say about the HD 7950 (as you know) mine didn't work properly. I am also glad I didn't RMA it as I was unable to reliably reproduce the faults.
(also glad I didn't due to the high failure rate of the MSi card)
The ONLY place you will notice that the GTX 660 TI is slower than the HD 7950 is in resolutions higher than mine and benchmarks, you do realise that don't you?
I have nothing good at all to say about the HD 7950 (as you know) mine didn't work properly. I am also glad I didn't RMA it as I was unable to reliably reproduce the faults.
(also glad I didn't due to the high failure rate of the MSi card)
The ONLY place you will notice that the GTX 660 TI is slower than the HD 7950 is in resolutions higher than mine and benchmarks, you do realise that don't you?
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Well that's a little illogical don't you think? Your problem wasn't the HD7950 it was more than likely the board partners problem.
To base an opinion on one faulty model is not really thinking I can pretend to understand fully... especially as (dodgy MSI batch aside) the chances of getting a failed card are pretty much the same on both side.
What if you got a dodgy 660Ti as well after some hellish luck?
Wrong. If you replace 7950 with 7870 then I'll agree
. The 7950 is comparable to the 670 unless of course you're suggesting your little 660Ti is as good as a 670 now to the naked eye?'Notice' is a subjective verb anyway in this context. I would notice anything under what a 7950 provides and this is the minimum performance I am happy with. I even toyed with going crossfire for a single screen to get more FPS. For the money it's stonking... providing at 1080p only 8% less performance than my one in a million GTX 680.
The argument that you won't notice the difference being used as a basis to buy a fundamentally inferior card is inherently flawed. It's so flawed infact I won't even unpick it!
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Your card was a one off bad experience- you shouldn't let that become the deciding factor straight away. That could have just as easily happened with your 660Ti.
As Rusty pointed out, the fault was almost certainly down to the board partner- not AMD with a faulty 7950 GPU.
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
It was easier to 'go back to what you know'
I am not calling the HD 7950 (other than the MSi one(s))
I just didn't have the cash to keep sending them back, also I was one of the first to have issues, therefore we didn't realise the scope of the problem at that stage.
When did you roughly buy your msi 7950?
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
If you remember, I put it down to garbage ATi not garbage MSi - as this was realised later.
I will admit, I bought an ATi card expecting it to be inferior to nVidia, and I wasn't surprised at all when it was.
(I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised)
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
28th Sept.
Kinda shocked the faulty batch even existed back in september I thought it occurred around October. I took the chance on buying one around mid October thank god I was one of the lucky ones.
It's not really clear if this was from the dreaded faulty batch or just a dodgy one that sneaked through the QA net or even user error.
The faulty batch was more to do with heat and as a result noise... his was just performing pants from memory.
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
It was a fresh Windows install on my new (sig) mobo.
I had never had an nVidia card on this board at that point.
True true good point it could have just been a normal old dodgy gpu
SkodaMart
SkodaMart
Noise isn't a problem anyhow, seeing that i'm partially deaf!
The card worked fine (most of the time) I just got the occasional artifact flash, so fast it was gone as soon as you had seen it.
Also lousy WoT performance, but only on certain maps.
Like I have said, it was too vague to RMA it.
The card worked fine (most of the time) I just got the occasional artifact flash, so fast it was gone as soon as you had seen it.
Also lousy WoT performance, but only on certain maps.
Like I have said, it was too vague to RMA it.