New iMacs/Minis Tomorrow?

Hmmmm was waiting for the nehlemn mac pros, but the price increase has REALLY put me off.....may get the older mac pro now, god its well expensive :( the education discount is 14% yes? makes the top end model about 2.3k with 4870 graphics
 
Hmm... Mac Pro, 2.66 2xQC and 16GB... £4,019. That's not including that possible GPU upgrade.

Will have to think long and hard about that..

edit: In fact I've decided. I think iPhone and Snow Leopard will be my main purchases this year - although a 120GB SSD may end up being bought for Snow Leopard for the MBP :D
 
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I am undecided about this..

I sold my Mac Pro to pay toward our wedding, and said I would dabble in another if the next iteration came with decent specs but I'll wait for benchmarks on this.

Probably end up getting another when Snow Leopard is out / the next iteration (the die shrink) :cool:
 
In theory Snow Leopard is marketed as being a boost in performance and less footprint..

I'd look at the rumours and say SL isn't ready for release yet - especially if they release a 10.5.7 to keep new MacPro owners happy with support for the new chipset.
 
Maccy said:
That's a point, no news on Snow Leopard?
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No media event, no Snow Leopard.

24th of March is a rumoured date for something to happen, Snow Leopard could show its face then. It's the type of thing they'll want to parade infront of the drooling masses.
 
Wicksta said:
A lot of holes in their argument, as pointed out in the comments.
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Oh yeah, I was just showing it for information's sake :)

bigredshark said:
No, it's exchange rates. How hard is that to understand, do you expect them to make a loss or slash margins because the £ is weak?? Why on earth would they??
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Very. Since if you take away the recession (ie. VAT back at 17.5% and $2 to £1) the basic Mac Mini should be at around £350. Was it ever? NO! Apple explained high prices were "Due to the cost of doing business in the UK". But now we have higher prices that match exchange rates almost exactly. Pretty much Apple just enjoy screwing us for as much as possible but varying the reason to suit themselves. Simple as.
 
Fillado said:
Oh yeah, I was just showing it for information's sake :)



Very. Since if you take away the recession (ie. VAT back at 17.5% and $2 to £1) the basic Mac Mini should be at around £350. Was it ever? NO! Apple explained high prices were "Due to the cost of doing business in the UK". But now we have higher prices that match exchange rates almost exactly. Pretty much Apple just enjoy screwing us for as much as possible but varying the reason to suit themselves. Simple as.
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Fact is the US price stayed fairly static during this update. If you honestly think that apple are out to screw UK customers for the hell of it, then I'm afraid you're just delusional.

Anyone with half a brain had to have realised that prices were heading upwards due to the exchange rate. Anything else was just make believe.
 
More on topic, the HD4870 is surely an odd choice, it's nowhere near a workstation card. Which says a lot about where apple are targeting, if you're a gamer you'll be pleased sure but I'm fairly sure it isn't workstation certified which is curious in such an expensive machine.
 
I'm not up on video cards, how much of an improvement over the 8800 is the 4870?

I need to know how pleased I should be.
 
bigredshark said:
Fact is the US price stayed fairly static during this update. If you honestly think that apple are out to screw UK customers for the hell of it, then I'm afraid you're just delusional.

Anyone with half a brain had to have realised that prices were heading upwards due to the exchange rate. Anything else was just make believe.
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You seem to have misunderstood what I said entirely. So I shall bring in bullet points...

  • A year ago, Apple prices didn't match exchange rates.

    The UK price was well above the simple Dollar > Pound + Tax conversion

    Steve Jobs has said (in relation to high prices in the UK) that "it costs more to do business"... fair enough

    Now we have prices that match the Dollar > Pound + Tax conversion

    Where's the cost of doing business in the UK gone? The prices should be even higher if Apple's previous reasoning is to be followed

    Apple were screwing us over before, and now they've hiked the prices up to match exchange rates since that's all they can now get away with.

    Put simply: Whatever makes the most profit possible for Apple in $$$, Apple does.

Apple are full of bull****, you just seem to be happily eating some.
 
Fillado said:
You seem to have misunderstood what I said entirely. So I shall bring in bullet points...

  • A year ago, Apple prices didn't match exchange rates.

    The UK price was well above the simple Dollar > Pound + Tax conversion

    Steve Jobs has said (in relation to high prices in the UK) that "it costs more to do business"... fair enough

    Now we have prices that match the Dollar > Pound + Tax conversion

    Where's the cost of doing business in the UK gone? The prices should be even higher if Apple's previous reasoning is to be followed

    Apple were screwing us over before, and now they've hiked the prices up to match exchange rates since that's all they can now get away with.

    Put simply: Whatever makes the most profit possible for Apple in $$$, Apple does.

Apple are full of bull****, you just seem to be happily eating some.
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Well considering there is a cost of doing business, it was never going to be the equivalent of an exchange rate conversion. Current prices reflect the original UK price with an exchange rate adjustment.

Previous UK price for the base mini - I remember it as £399(??), converted to dollars at $1.8 per £ (conservatively - it was likely done at $1.9 or higher) that meant apple got about $720 per unit sold.

Now the new price is £499, converted at $1.4 per £ (conservatively - they likely bargained on it falling to $1.2 and it's currently $1.3) means apple make around $700 per unit. It should be more expensive if anything.

Now, complete with sums, explain how my economics degree has failed me and apple are secretly out to get everyone.
 
Just taken a look and the prices do seem to have jumped quite a bit! I got my 24" 3.06GHz iMac last August for £1300. The equivalent is now £1800 - although it has a 1TB drive instead of my 500GB and twice the memory at 4GB, but still £500 more??
 
bigredshark said:
Now, complete with sums, explain how my economics degree has failed me and apple are secretly out to get everyone.
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Well, you haven't taken into account VAT for a start...

The point still remains: The Mac Mini has never been as low as £352.50 (to be exact) using the exchange rate of $2 to £1. They were screwing us over then but using the "cost of business" excuse, but now they've made it look like they aren't by apparently removing said cost of business.

My problem isn't with the current price, it's what it should be!* It's with Apple making up fake excuses for jacking up the price in previous years.

*In comparison with the US... but it's still expensive for what it is.
 
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