New Intel Processors Announced

Tom|Nbk · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:20

If the NDA is up I'm wondering why we can't pre order them yet :confused:

can someone get hold of Gibbo.

Deluxe1 · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:22

Didnt the intel fella post that the nda isnt up on them yet?

Tom|Nbk · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:28

Richie P said:
Not absurd...the pricing for those two current processors has come down a lot over time.

The E6850 was £190 upon release...

And on top of that, the $266 is per-1000 batch quantities before all the different mark-ups like the retailer, VAT, and new product premium.

When the C2D E6600 was first released, it was a $266 per-1000 chip and it couldn't be had for less than £230 and was even £250 when stocks ran low.

My guess is that things wont be quite as bad, because most people are quite happy with their current C2D and C2Q's, whereas before Conroe people were still hanging onto Pentium 4 and D's, or embraced the huge overclocks after moving from Athlon x2's.

Take the US pricing of $183 = £94 roughly.

Add VAT of 17.5% = £16

Import say = £5 per chip (Not clued up on this at all)

Brings us to £120 there abouts

A markup of 25% for what is originally a cheap seems a bit high but since they will be selling in large quantities I'm not sure it will need to be that high. I'm expecting £120-£130. £150 will make me reconsider.

Tom|Nbk · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:29

Deluxe1 said:
Didnt the intel fella post that the nda isnt up on them yet?

NDA was up on the 7th mate

. Check the Annoucement slides.

Tom|Nbk · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:32

http://www.directron.com/bx80570e8400a.html

Retailing for $200 in America or thereabouts it seems

(This is not a competitor since it doesn't ship outside the US, I will remove if a don has an issue with it)

Cob · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:46

Sorry! This item is currently out of stock.

ETA: To be determined

I'm always wary of prices on ads for things that aren't on pre-order yet. They can, and often do change.

And there'll probably be no sales tax on that $200.

Tetras · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:55

Hi

how long is the current socket going to be around for? with the new boards they will accept Nehalem too right?

maybe a good choice for someone moving from AMD to intel with these cpu's coming out until Nehalem comes.

Nehalem will be a new socket. Penryn is end of the line.

h2009 · 12 Jan 2008 at 15:58

anyone know the actual date when we can buy these things? i mean really buy it, not pre order.

nightmare99 · 12 Jan 2008 at 16:00

Take the reseller pricing of $183 = £94 roughly.

reseller profit = £5 per chip (cpus bought through uk channel unless grey stock, grey not available for new launch)

Add VAT of 17.5% = £16

Brings us to £120 there abouts

Corrected

nightmare99 · 12 Jan 2008 at 16:02

Ohh just noticed them listed on a uk disties website they are exactly the same prices as E6750 & E6850.

Told ya

easyrider · 12 Jan 2008 at 16:32

Deluxe1 said:
my guess will be £150 for the E8400 and £190 for the E8500.

Yup,

There will a be a premium to pay over the 65nm parts.

Q9550 will come in just under 300 I reckon too.

HighlandeR · 12 Jan 2008 at 16:51

So you guys still reckon its best to go for an E8400 3ghz Core2duo chip?

Doesnt it concern you guys when ya multi-tasking heaverly like downloading torrents/listening to mp3s and surfing 10 websites back and forth ?

Id be interested to know if there was any difference between say a Q6600 and an Core2duo around 2.6-3ghz if there was any difference in the above scenerio, always had a sneaky gut feeling the quad core would just feel smoother.....

nightmare99 · 12 Jan 2008 at 16:57

Id be interested to know if there was any difference between say a Q6600 and an Core2duo around 2.6-3ghz

There are loads of E6850 vs Q6600 threads they should answer those questions.

my guess will be £150 for the E8400 and £190 for the E8500.

No they are the same prices as E6550 6750 & E6850, they might stick um on at a £10-£15 premium for the first few weeks also the $ rate has been dropping over the last few weeks which doesnt help.

Deluxe1 · 12 Jan 2008 at 17:17

HighlandeR said:
Doesnt it concern you guys when ya multi-tasking heaverly like downloading torrents/listening to mp3s and surfing 10 websites back and forth ?

a E6850 or the E8500 would be more than enough for that above.

Tom|Nbk · 12 Jan 2008 at 17:32

£150 upwards won't sell these chips, well it will, but not well. They will be E6750/E6850 prices as these will then be going EOL.

Kirth Gersen · 12 Jan 2008 at 17:50

This guy has got an E8500 to 4.7Ghz on air... SuperPi at 9.8 secs

http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?t=25544

Very sweet setup, no compromise on components - that Dominator DDR3 memory comes in at >£330 for 2 Gb :eek:

Skyboat · 12 Jan 2008 at 18:37

They won't sell for a lot more, if any, than the current chips they will succeed. It's all about evolutionary pricing to phase out the older models, otherwise people will still be buying the cheapest unit that's still in stock.

Intel Guy · 12 Jan 2008 at 18:56

Tom|Nbk said:
NDA was up on the 7th mate . Check the Annoucement slides.

Not for E8xxx and Q9xxx. The 7th lift was for the launch of penryn as a technology and for the notebook cpus. Desktop is on the 20th.

Vertigo · 12 Jan 2008 at 19:22

HighlandeR said:
So you guys still reckon its best to go for an E8400 3ghz Core2duo chip?

Doesnt it concern you guys when ya multi-tasking heaverly like downloading torrents/listening to mp3s and surfing 10 websites back and forth ?

Id be interested to know if there was any difference between say a Q6600 and an Core2duo around 2.6-3ghz if there was any difference in the above scenerio, always had a sneaky gut feeling the quad core would just feel smoother.....

No. Contrary to what some of the quad-core zealots will tell you, Windows will not feel any more responsive nor will the above programs multi-task any better.

A quad is only of any use if you're doing very computationally intensive tasks, such as video encoding or 3D rendering. Some games are supposed to take advantage of more than two cores but, in all but a very few games, the gains over a similarly clocked dual are slight.

As for the futureproofing or "may as well, it's hardly any more for a quad" arguments, bear in mind that you'll have trouble clocking the quad to the same speed as a dual, will have more heat to get rid of requiring more expensive and/or noisy cooling and will consume more power. If you don't need the extra cores, why incur these penalties?

Skyboat · 12 Jan 2008 at 20:00

Vertigo1 said:
No. Contrary to what some of the quad-core zealots will tell you, Windows will not feel any more responsive nor will the above programs multi-task any better.

A quad is only of any use if you're doing very computationally intensive tasks, such as video encoding or 3D rendering. Some games are supposed to take advantage of more than two cores but, in all but a very few games, the gains over a similarly clocked dual are slight.

As for the futureproofing or "may as well, it's hardly any more for a quad" arguments, bear in mind that you'll have trouble clocking the quad to the same speed as a dual, will have more heat to get rid of requiring more expensive and/or noisy cooling and will consume more power. If you don't need the extra cores, why incur these penalties?

That's pretty much my feelings too

The E8400 will be the most popular bang-for-buck chip for a lot of consumers, I think the quad novelty is starting to wear off