New m.2 drives on pcie4.0

Avalon · 8 Oct 2020 at 19:07

havenrl said:
WD Gen 4 has been reported to be released now.
Looks nice.

The market for Gen 4 m.2 is slowly picking up pace.

I don't fancy the Samsung drive, cos of using TLC like mentioned above.

Have you run into the write limit much with previous drives?

nitrousx123 · 8 Oct 2020 at 19:32

For me I'll migrate my gen 3 nvme to X570. I have a 1tb Samsung 960 evo and i also have a 512gb 970 evo both these SSD's do not make any large difference to boot times in games they are miniscal. I would say stick to using traditional Sata SSD's for boot drives and if you can as archive drives to replace the aging HDD's in your builds.

havenrl · 8 Oct 2020 at 20:00

Avalon said:
Have you run into the write limit much with previous drives?

I'm just using normal ssd's atm, 2x 1tb ssd with my computer upgrade last year.
It was no m.2 ssd to reduce the overall cost.

Now the gen4 m.2's are coming to market, now is the time to actually make use of my mboard ( 3 m.2 slots ).

RichL · 9 Oct 2020 at 11:13

Just ordered a Gen4 WD Black SN850 1TB to try out, interested to see what speeds it hits.

jrwagh333 · 9 Oct 2020 at 13:54

RichL said:
Just ordered a Gen4 WD Black SN850 1TB to try out, interested to see what speeds it hits.

I knew they were coming but didn't know you could order them yet. Love my SN750. Been solid

nitrousx123 · 10 Oct 2020 at 21:53

Hardware Unboxed made a video on this very subject today. They said that any Sata would be more than enough but if you can please avoid using QLC based SSDs especially ones with no DRAM caches as in some cases they can just as slow as HDDs. here's a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COofLeqk_tM

uscool · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:57

Also mentioned direct storage is severel years away :confused:

Joxeon · 11 Oct 2020 at 01:03

Just going with a cheap TLC gen 3 nvme will be plenty fast for the average user.

Participant · 11 Oct 2020 at 08:46

I'm sticking with Gen 3s for the moment as as average user. Just don't see the value in paying more for something now that won't be capitalised on for a year.

chaparral · 11 Oct 2020 at 11:36

Participant said:
I'm sticking with Gen 3s for the moment as as average user. Just don't see the value in paying more for something now that won't be capitalised on for a year.

I agree

From what i can see it £560 for a 4TB Gen 3 compared to £700 for a Gen 4

£140 extra and you will most likely not notice a single difference between them in normal everyday use

nitrousx123 · 11 Oct 2020 at 14:33

Participant said:
I'm sticking with Gen 3s for the moment as as average user. Just don't see the value in paying more for something now that won't be capitalised on for a year.

Yeah you won't see much benefit going to a gen 4 nvme ssd. Unless you have some special application that can utilise the high amount of iops they produce. As others said it will take a while for Devs to implement the Direct Storage APi's into their games. I could see AMD bring a game infinity cache that would utilise their Radeon cards on their X series motherboards. Similar to what the Series X/PS5 consoles will be doing. It's just a matter of time really

Bravetart · 11 Oct 2020 at 14:41

BigBANGtheory said:
I decided to split it for my new PC build, as I think this gives you the best price/perf compromise plus simultaneous read/write on two channels

1TB 980 Pro (just for raw performance on the OS, pagefile and Nvidia IO)
2TB Adata XPG SX8200 Pro (TLC nand) PCIe 3.0

they both cost £210 each which in total is still less than the predicted price of 2TB 980 Pro due in Dec.

Ended up copying you

BigBANGtheory · 11 Oct 2020 at 21:55

Bravetart said:
Ended up copying you

I think u made a good choice :cool:

Frubeling · 12 Oct 2020 at 20:39

I don't intend on grabbing one right this moment but I'll definitely get a 500gb gen4 drive to be my boot and software drivesome time next year because honestly what's a hundred quid. Will also allow me to remove the old style SSD from my build

Rom · 12 Oct 2020 at 23:21

So I might be mis reading something, but im also looking at gen 4 drives.

Sabrent 2TB Rocket Q4 NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive R/W 4800/3600 MB/s (SB-RKTQ4-2TB) this is £252?! Is there something bad about it?

My bad, its QLC not TLC. The TLC is another £100 ish