New member, First build! What are your thoughts?

Rhyswh said:
I'm going to stay away from AMD just out of preference and like you say I'm not interested in GPU's. So I'l hold off buying the CPU and mobo until May and buy the rest before then.

Thanks for the help guys.

I've seen the word 'bottlenecking' on a few threads, what exactly does this mean and am I going to have this issue?
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This is just when you have, say, a very weak CPU but a really good GPU. The GPU is bottlenecked by the CPU and can't perform to it's full potential. So no you'll be okay :)
 
*Update*
Case
Casecom CB-341 (bought)
Motherboard
Asrock H67DE3
Processor
Intel i7 2600
Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler
Ram
16gb Corsair RAM
Hard drive
WD Caviar Black 1TB
CD drive
Samsung BD-Combo
PSU
Corsair TX650W V2
Extras
Addon NWP210 300mbs wireless card
Firewire 800 card
Antec Truequiet 120mm Case Fan (bought)

Also bought a wireless mouse and keyboard (strange things to buy first I know!)
 
i think the psu is overkill considering you dont have a graphics card or overclockable cpu, i would have gone for the 530W bequiet psu
 
Rhyswh said:
*Update*
Case
Casecom CB-341 (bought)
Motherboard
Asrock H67DE3 Z68 board will do you so much better in the long term
Processor
Intel i7 2600
Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler
Ram
16gb Corsair RAM Change to 8GB of kingston Genesis
Hard drive
WD Caviar Black 1TB Change to WD Caviar Green 2TB, cheaper and bigger space
CD drive
Samsung BD-Combo
PSU
Corsair TX650W V2 Go with the BeQuiet 530w, 650w is overkill
Extras
Addon NWP210 300mbs wireless card
Firewire 800 card
Antec Truequiet 120mm Case Fan (bought)

Also bought a wireless mouse and keyboard (strange things to buy first I know!)
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EARX) £104.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £59.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £39.98
Total : £541.33 (includes shipping : £9.50).



Cheaper than what you said, and better, BUT its all on offer this week. Theyre all fairly common on offer though, so it wont be much more expensive.
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £99.98
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BluRay ROM / DVDRW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (Retail) £59.99
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 500W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £39.98
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £34.98
Total : £624.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).



use the code cmdouble to get £20 off, but as you've already bought a case this'll be redundent as you need to buy a coolermaster case and either the silent pro 500w or 600w psu.

as rik said get the gigabyte z68ap-d3 motherboard over the h67 motherboard, little more but more future proof.
 
The reason I changed to the Corsair PSU is because someone told me that they wouldn't trust Be Quiet! and that I would be better off with Corsair or Antec? Has anyone got any experience with Be Quiet stuff?

Rik1254: It can't be cheaper because everything in the list is more expensive apart from the RAM! Doesn't the WD caviar green spin at 5400rpm?? I would prefer 7200rpm.

Fowler002: I like the look of the PSU you chose. Is 500W enough for my needs?
 
Do your Audio program utilise hyperthreading?

If not the any i7 is a complete waste, get a i5-2500k and overclock to 4-4.5 GHz for much better performance at a cheaper price. Overclocking on the i5 is childs play.

The Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler seems to be a very good cooler for the price.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...57&subcat=1395

This PSU is more than good enough for a non-gaming sandybridge system. Nice Seasonic OEM. It would even run my current system.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-006-XF&groupid=701&

I would rate it above the cooler master PSUs and the cheap BeQuiet model.
 
Rhyswh said:
The reason I changed to the Corsair PSU is because someone told me that they wouldn't trust Be Quiet! and that I would be better off with Corsair or Antec? Has anyone got any experience with Be Quiet stuff?

Rik1254: It can't be cheaper because everything in the list is more expensive apart from the RAM! Doesn't the WD caviar green spin at 5400rpm?? I would prefer 7200rpm.

Fowler002: I like the look of the PSU you chose. Is 500W enough for my needs?
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Nope 7200rpm 64mb cache. The only thing that's more expensive is the board, but its like 50 times better
 
Hyperthreading is supported by Protools but I know a lot of people have had some issues with it. But Avid (Protools) and Propellerhead (Reason) release updates and new versions every year so I would rather spend that little bit extra and make it futureproof.

Am I right in thinking that a GPU uses a lot of power and that's why gamers need big PSU's?

I've had other advice saying that I should get a 700W - 750W PSU!!!! I did a wattage calculator test and it came up as 400W so I can't see why 450W wouldn't be enough. I think I would rather have around 550W just to make sure though.
 
Sold! How come they are the same price if not slightly cheaper!!! What is the difference? apart from one being 2TB and the other 1TB!
 
Rhyswh said:
Hyperthreading is supported by Protools but I know a lot of people have had some issues with it. But Avid (Protools) and Propellerhead (Reason) release updates and new versions every year so I would rather spend that little bit extra and make it futureproof.

Am I right in thinking that a GPU uses a lot of power and that's why gamers need big PSU's?

I've had other advice saying that I should get a 700W - 750W PSU!!!! I did a wattage calculator test and it came up as 400W so I can't see why 450W wouldn't be enough. I think I would rather have around 550W just to make sure though.
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For the CPU get the K version and overclock as the i5-2500k @ 4.5 GHz will be faster than a i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz even with the benefit of hyperthreading.
OTOH the i7-2600k (or 2700k) is a nice CPU @ 4.5 GHz. :)

lol @ 750 W.

My PC when runing at 100% CPU load (no Graphic card use) won't go over 200 W(Quite a bit less, but I'd have to check for exact figure) from the wall. :) 70 W Idle.
 
So how much difference does the hyperthreading make??

I would rather not oc to be honest. I don't know why but I always think it's unstable!!

I thought 750W was silly too!!!! I think I might stick with my original Be Quiet idea if anyone can convince me its a good make. otherwise I'll go for the Corsair one.
 
It's simple really, if the program you are using can use more cores then you will see a benefit. But if the programs you are using don't use as many cores as you have, then those other cores are going to waste.

Hyperthreading effectivly doubles the ammount of cores you have. A chip with 4 cores and no hyper threading has 4 'threads' (if you catch my drift) a chip with 4 cores and hyperthreading has 8 threads, which is like having 8 cores.

hth.
 
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