New SFF pc upgrade

rDanny

rDanny

rDanny

Associate
Joined
31 Oct 2016
Posts
14
Hi i have recently purchased a dell optilplex 990 sff quad core i5 2400 with 8gb of ram. the same as the one in the link below. i am wanting to upgrade this system to run iracing and i am lacking confidence in purchasing the correct graphics card

(i'm also wanting to upgrade the ram to 16gb)
as the computer is not due to arrive till tomorrow i am unsure about the free ram slots tho i assume i will need 2 banks of 4gig ram chips.

i am asking here in the hope someone can help me by finding a few links for me to choose a card for the system that would work without me having to change the psu. i have come across a few from around £40 to up to £150 but am yet unsure and i think the 4gb graphics card may use too much power

the system is
dell optiplex 990 ssf quad core i5 2400 8gb 128gb ssd


the cards i have been looking at are

.
msi gt 710
.
evga gt 710 low profile

unsure if a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OC Low Profile 4G and/or GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5 would run with the current psu

the more i look the more im put off any help appreciated

thanks
 
Last edited:
Hi and welcome to the forums. :)

Unfortunately you have broken the rules on your very first post. Links to competitors are not allowed on here so you had better remove them. This forum is paid for by OverclockersUK (the shop) and link to competitors would undermine their sales.
 
my bad sorry i have amended leaving only the keywords hopefully to give a idea of what i have being looking at.

could anyone point me to the overclockers store via a suitable link if they have compatible parts that would be good.

again apologies for my shaky start
 
Got to remove the links as well.

Copy and paste the Features/Specifications section into here and add that it brings Windows 10, and all good.
 
I have the following questions on the product GX-33E-MS : MSI GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GT Low Profile 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card:

I have the following questions on the product GX-33D-MS : MSI GeForce GTX 1050 2GT Low Profile 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card:

would this card fit in a standard Dell OptiPlex 990 SFF Quad Core i5-2400 8GB 128GB SSD Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit Desktop PC Computer without needing to change the psu?

i found them in the overclockersuk store can anyone help?
 
Here's the thing:

The Optiplex 990 SFF only has two Sata ports on the motherboard, and both of them are filled with the DVD Slim re-writer and the 128GB SSD. That leaves you with no room for additional storage* unless you get rid of the DVD re-writer. 128GB won't last you very long.

* You can fit 2 x 2.5" (but have to lose the Sata port for the DVD) or 1 x 3.5", or 1 x 3.5" + 1 x 2.5" (stuff the 2.5" in the space occupied by the DVD after removing it).

As far as RAM is concerned it takes PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 240pin SDRAM DIMM.

It can take 2 x PCI-E low-profile cards. You need a video card that is low-profile and doesn't require an additional power connector, i.e. gets all its power through the motherboard slot.

Tinkering inside the case doesn't look very easy, and you will have to remove and replace things to access areas, as you can see from the manual http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_optiplex_desktop/optiplex-990_service manual2_en-us.pdf


rDanny said:
I have the following questions on the product GX-33E-MS : MSI GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GT Low Profile 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card:

I have the following questions on the product GX-33D-MS : MSI GeForce GTX 1050 2GT Low Profile 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card:

would this card fit in a standard Dell OptiPlex 990 SFF Quad Core i5-2400 8GB 128GB SSD Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit Desktop PC Computer without needing to change the psu?

i found them in the overclockersuk store can anyone help?
Click to expand...


Yes. Either of the following should fit:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £279.88
(includes shipping: £9.90)





You may also need a BIOS update for the card to work. Do Dell have one, since the Optiplex 990 SFF is EOL since a while ago? I don't know.​
 
thank you very much!

So as far as the system is now and until i can check the ram slots (as it looks as tho overclockers do not stock the ram) i could fit the gtx 1050ti low profile card with no power consumption issues and i'd be up and running as i think the standard psu is 230/240 watt.
 
rDanny said:
thank you very much!

So as far as the system is now and until i can check the ram slots (as it looks as tho overclockers do not stock the ram) i could fit the gtx 1050ti low profile card with no power consumption issues and i'd be up and running as i think the standard psu is 230/240 watt.
Click to expand...

Right, as long as the "240W" PSU can provide close to 240W for CPU and GPU, then all good. Can it? You'll have to see. :)
 
i don't know can it? that's why i was looking at smaller spec ones, looking back at the above cards there power consumption is 75w with a recommended psu of 300. I believe i read that the max for this system without problems is 25w
 
what i have noticed (i had to remove the links) is that you can actually order the same system and spec it with a 1050ti and more ram and i do not see any change in psu it appears to ship with a 240w its not where i got mine but just thought id mention it
 
rDanny said:
what i have noticed (i had to remove the links) is that you can actually order the same system and spec it with a 1050ti and more ram and i do not see any change in psu it appears to ship with a 240w its not where i got mine but just thought id mention it
Click to expand...

The issue is the lack of specs for that 240W PSU. If you can find detailed specs on that PSU, then you could know for sure. Otherwise it's a matter of hoping it can deliver enough, because not all PSUs deliver their full rating to CPU and GPU.

If they ship 1050Tis with that same PSU, then it's a good sign.
 
the OCuk store has
Single 2U 600W 80 plus PSU - OC-SG2U600
that wouldn't be the same fit would it, also i have a couple of 650 atx psu's spare which is a shame i should have just got a tower grr,

i also read that the board for the dell wouldn't fit in a tower as there boards are custom
 
Last edited:
I just watched a YouTube video of upgrades for same computer(apart from it's an i7 model), they only upped the ran, fit an ssd plus a 1gb gt 730, but looking at the power supply, it seems to have the 80 plus logo on it so what else not a bronze it should be good, however I'm not sure if it's the same as they didn't mention output of it, suppose with an i5/i7 it wouldn't be dells typical cheap rubbish, but the unit is like full length of the case and rectangular, so maybe get away with one of these..

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £119.44
(includes shipping: £10.50)



​

They come with a 6 pin and 300w still be good for decent graphic cards depending if you can even better the 1050s for most powerful low profile, not a common used size for big performers.
 
much thanks everyone i'll open it up when i take delivery tomorrow with a view of getting a 1050ti card in first, i may have a small form psu i can swap from my better halfs system i recall changing a while back it could possibly be 300w.
 
ExoMale said:
I just watched a YouTube video of upgrades for same computer(apart from it's an i7 model), they only upped the ran, fit an ssd plus a 1gb gt 730, but looking at the power supply, it seems to have the 80 plus logo on it so what else not a bronze it should be good, however I'm not sure if it's the same as they didn't mention output of it, suppose with an i5/i7 it wouldn't be dells typical cheap rubbish, but the unit is like full length of the case and rectangular, so maybe get away with one of these..

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £119.44
(includes shipping: £10.50)



​

They come with a 6 pin and 300w still be good for decent graphic cards depending if you can even better the 1050s for most powerful low profile, not a common used size for big performers.
Click to expand...


Neither of those psu's can deliver 300w on the 12v rail and I do wish people would check things out first before recommending or buying. Just because the sticker says 300w doesn't mean that it can deliver that on the 12v rail where it's needed. Ignore the label and go and find the specs for the true information. The bronze one only has 264w so only has marginally more power than the op's current psu while the gold one has a 288w 12v rail. Neither are particularly good either. Dells psu's can be quite good and I am not sure it's worth paying money for a new psu just for a extra 24w or 48w
 
pastymuncher said:
Neither of those psu's can deliver 300w on the 12v rail and I do wish people would check things out first before recommending or buying. Just because the sticker says 300w doesn't mean that it can deliver that on the 12v rail where it's needed. Ignore the label and go and find the specs for the true information. The bronze one only has 264w so only has marginally more power than the op's current psu while the gold one has a 288w 12v rail. Neither are particularly good either. Dells psu's can be quite good and I am not sure it's worth paying money for a new psu just for a extra 24w or 48w
Click to expand...

It will give that extra headroom as a 240w dell PS4 whether it's 80 plus anything or xps won't be pushing 240w or near to it, there are the silverstones that offer more power, but not listed, however I was using the above as an example, unless you remove the bracket all together or custom one I doubt there's anything 960 onwards that sports SFF, in fact I think the 1050ti is the fastest and most recent LPG you can get, there's the amd 250, but wouldn't offer the same, so the power output of the psu will be irrelevant as a 6 pin version of 1050/750 will be under 115w.
 
Dell's psu's are actually quite decent so spending £52 for a extra 24w seems a foolish move to me. £57 for a extra 48w isn't exactly good value for money either. His Dell should be more than enough for a 1050/1050ti to be added although it would be nice if he could post up a picture of the label or tell us what the 12v rail on his psu is listed as on the label.

The point I was trying to make was don't take for granted that just because a label states 300w, 400w etc in big bold lettering that it can provide that power on the all important 12v rail because in a lot of cases it can't. Even worse some psu's such as the crappy Kolink core and Silverstone Essential series they fall massively short of their stated total outputs on the 12v rail. I have seen it many times on here where someone asks what is the best upgrade they can do on a 500w psu. People then suggest big upgrades due to 500-550w being more than enough power for a single gpu based system which is true when that psu is a quality one. Several times I have actually looked up the psu only to find that it is lacking on the 12v rail and isn't enough for what has been suggested. People are all too willing to spend other peoples money on here without checking some simple facts first.
 

Hi guys, I eventually got time time to sit down and set it up and decided to make a quick dash to a local Maplin and grab a graphics card while windows was updating. all they had on the shelf that would fit may case was a geforce gt 730. the box states a 300w psu is recommended but i thought id give it a try anyway, and it works fine i'v ran iracing for 6 hours with no issues.

all tho it does run fine it does not run full settings (for anyone familiar class 4 settings are a best compromise)

so the next step is could i a run a higher spec graphics card? or would more ram help with my current set up, when i went to buy the card i did have 2gb in mind but as i said that was all they had at the time and i just wanted to get up and running. ideally i would want to run the 4gb ti and have 3 screens.

i have also added photos of the ram chips hoping someone can help me pair up so i can upgrade to 16gb

photo of psu included too, thanks
 
Last edited:
I have a hp elitedesk G1 sff which is likely similar to yours. I have a low profile MSI 1050 4gb card in it. I was running a 730, but found it not good enough for modern games. The 1050 runs absolutely fine.

There's about a 10x performance increase, so quite a significant upgrade.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom