New to RPG's....where to start?

Strife212 · 13 Mar 2010 at 21:56

Littlenose said:
out of interest, which RPG's would you suggest on the PS2 ?
(my PS2 hardly gets used anymore, but might if there was a nice RPG on it)

PS2 is the RPG's home :cool:

Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XII, Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga, SMT: DDS 2, Persona 3, Persona 4, SMT: Lucifer's Call, Xenosaga I, II and III, Shadow Hearts, Star Ocean, Altelier Iris, Ar Tonelico, Suikoden III, IV and V, and then you have the PS1 ones, FFVII,VIII,IX, FF Tactics, Xenogears, etc

Insanties_birth · 13 Mar 2010 at 22:02

I wouldn't recommend FF12 (XII) to someone new to RPG's. Messing around with the gambit system, the license system and the heavy grinding are not that user friendly and can take a lot of managing.

Final fantasy wise FF7, 8,9 and 10 would all be better. The persona 3 and 4 games are very easy to get into and recommended heavily due to there good plots and characters. Suikoden V would be really good too and while some would recommend way too many games for you to have any idea where to start I'd rather give you some of the better ones and leave it at that.
Also if you're looking at PS1 games I hear Vagrant story is really good. I bought it but not played it yet.

Strife212 · 13 Mar 2010 at 22:03

Try Persona 3 or 4, or FFX.

FoxEye · 13 Mar 2010 at 22:12

FF8 and FF9 are made of pure, refined, concentrated WIN and sprinkled with a liberal dose of AWESOME. Get them now

utajoker · 14 Mar 2010 at 19:52

if your new to RPGs find yourself a pc and pick up baldurs gate 1/2, neverwinter nights 1/2 and diablo 1/2, way better than anything around on the 360

wannabedamned · 14 Mar 2010 at 20:17

oooh Diablo, That game is pure Bliss, I miss it so much. Infact.... I'm gonna buy it

It'll be cheap now i'm sure lol

Abooie · 14 Mar 2010 at 21:08

utajoker said:
if your new to RPGs find yourself a pc and pick up baldurs gate 1/2, neverwinter nights 1/2 and diablo 1/2, way better than anything around on the 360

I love these posts.

Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale, Morrowind etc. are fantastic rpgs and some of my favourites from the past but 'Way better' than anything on the 360? Nonsense.

Mass Effect 1 & 2, Oblivion, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3 and Fable II are fantastic rpgs that really show the age of the ones you mention.

FoxEye · 14 Mar 2010 at 21:31

Abooie said:
I love these posts.

Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale, Morrowind etc. are fantastic rpgs and some of my favourites from the past but 'Way better' than anything on the 360? Nonsense.

Mass Effect 1 & 2, Oblivion, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3 and Fable II are fantastic rpgs that really show the age of the ones you mention.

Clearly that's a matter of opinion. I'd rate BG1&2 over Oblivion, Dragon Age & Fallout 3.

I've not played ME so no idea about that.

Spirited · 14 Mar 2010 at 22:00

Abooie said:
I love these posts.

Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale, Morrowind etc. are fantastic rpgs and some of my favourites from the past but 'Way better' than anything on the 360? Nonsense.

Mass Effect 1 & 2, Oblivion, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3 and Fable II are fantastic rpgs that really show the age of the ones you mention.

Take graphics out of the equasion, and judge an rpg on its strengths; playability, combat, inventory/ability management, character advancement, story and setting.

Ask yourself this; how fully realised and fleshed out is the world of Fable 2 when compared to the world of Forgotten Realms?

Insanties_birth · 15 Mar 2010 at 01:30

Spirited said:
Take graphics out of the equasion, and judge an rpg on its strengths; playability, combat, inventory/ability management, character advancement, story and setting.

Ask yourself this; how fully realised and fleshed out is the world of Fable 2 when compared to the world of Forgotten Realms?

Ask yourself does a fleshed out world matter if you don't like the world? It's silly to act like anything on 360 can't be as good as on PC's or that these old games are so great because they have trivial background info that doesn't effect the game. I even love deep fantasy settings but sure enough in a game that doesn't equate to fun all the time. I've played BG 1,2 and throne of bhaal, Ice wind dale, Diablo 2 and others but I do still appreciate good games without that back story stuff. Dragon age had quite a bit of back story from the get go but I still played and had more fun on Lost odyssey and Oblivion. You could say there strength is in fun, easy to manage combat. Tales of vesperia, Lost odyssey and FF13 are all good examples of JRPG (typically more linear gameplay and simpler levelling up systems) and I don't see how them having little story detracts from what they are good at.

Spirited · 15 Mar 2010 at 03:15

Insanties_birth said:
Ask yourself does a fleshed out world matter if you don't like the world? It's silly to act like anything on 360 can't be as good as on PC's or that these old games are so great because they have trivial background info that doesn't effect the game.

I never said there cant be a great rpg on the console. There already is one, its Dragon Age, I have it on my 360 and I love it. I specifically mentioned Fable because that's only barely an rpg and theres no way it can stand up to a true rpg as far as I'm concerned.

Platform and technology is irrelevant. BG could have come out on the colecovision, as far as I am concered, it would still be the greatest rpg ever made - again, as far as I'm concerned. But I wouldn't be alone in that view, there's a very good reason why people are still talking about it and reinstalling it and its got nothing to do with looks (which was the main point of my first post).

RobotXander · 15 Mar 2010 at 09:35

Start off with Fable II (as already stated)

Great game, but not too hardcore. Highly enjoyable

Abooie · 15 Mar 2010 at 11:43

Spirited said:
Take graphics out of the equasion, and judge an rpg on its strengths; playability, combat, inventory/ability management, character advancement, story and setting.

Ask yourself this; how fully realised and fleshed out is the world of Fable 2 when compared to the world of Forgotten Realms?

I don't disagree that the Forgotten Realms games have a fantastically fleshed out and coherent back story. At the time Baldurs Gate was a breath of fresh air and the game every western rpg gamer had dreamed of but would I really recommend them to new rpg fans today? Not a chance.

And why stop there? I loved, absolutely love Ultima IV; for a coherent fleshed out world it can't be beaten but to play that today when you could be playing Dragon Age: Origins, or Oblivion would be masochistic especially to someone new to the genre and used to a modern video game design.

I'm all for people going back to experience the games that made me tick all those years ago but half the time it's my memories of them that's great because of when I played them and if I was to go back now I'm sure I'd probably be disappointed.

wannabedamned · 15 Mar 2010 at 13:45

It's a bit strange and I'm not sure where the line is...

I'm in complete agreement with Abooie about recommending certain games to newcomers being based more on a nostalgic sentiment we have for the games, and chances are the same wow factor wont be seen in a newcomer.

But...In the same breath I'd recommend the PSX final Fantasy games to someone. As I found them immense, and they are most definately dated

Its hard to gauge