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just thought i would let you guys know, wearing shoes/trainers can lead to many knee and foot problems, the human foot has came about through many many years of evolution and it is not by chance it is made the the way it is.

the bio mechanics of the human leg simply doesn't work very well when placed inside a shoe, creating problems. it can cause a variety of problems such as collapsed arches (flat feet), etc.

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Just ordered some Jordan Prim 5s, wanted the red in size 12 but can't find them anywhere! Posting pics of red ones anyway

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And they will actually be used for playing ball.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
just thought i would let you guys know, Psycho Sonny can lead to many problems.

the bio mechanics of Psycho Sonny simply doesn't work very well when placed inside a forum, creating problems. it can cause a variety of problems such as trolling, ill informed posts, a lack of knowledge on subjects, etc.
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Psycho Sonny said:
just thought i would let you guys know, wearing shoes/trainers can lead to many knee and foot problems, the human foot has came about through many many years of evolution and it is not by chance it is made the the way it is.

the bio mechanics of the human leg simply doesn't work very well when placed inside a shoe, creating problems. it can cause a variety of problems such as collapsed arches (flat feet), etc.

barefoot > vibram five fingers > running shoes > trainers
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My mate wanted to come running with me, he turned up in a pair of forrest hills, just told him to jog on.

If I am in the house I never wear anything on my feet.
 
G|mp said:
I'm someone who cannot post within SA because i think i am superior but really i'm not due too many issues within my life where i have been belittled
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just did some extensive reading on barefoot walking/running, etc. it seems as though there is a strong chance my professional physiotherapist is wrong.

i have now came to the conclusion that, i should throw out all of my shoes and only wear vibram five fingers or go barefoot whenever possible.

shoes are causing the problem, and most likely what caused me to have collapsed arches and, since wearing insoles i have actually developed severe pains in my good knee, i mean so much pain i struggled to stand on it.

barefoot is a lot healthier for your foot, joints, bones and knee's. by going barefoot it forces you to walk, run and lift properly, the way the body was designed to do so.

read below for more information:

So, if you feel that I am wrong about recommending Vibrams to people with your condition, please read these articles written by and about people with flat feet and collapsed arches who ran in Vibrams without issues and even found their legs and feet much stronger and healthier and even gaining their arches back. I beg you, I beg you, I beg you not to pass judgment without reading each of these articles. I have quoted a few specific quotes from the articles in this post, but each article contains more information:

http://venutip.com/content/flat-footed-runner-tries-vibram-fivefingers


People in this thread state that their feet actually adapted and began to have arches:
http://birthdayshoes.com/forum/five...ussion/flat-feet-and-the-vibram-five-fingers/


This man had "clinically-diagnosed arch problems as a child -- flat feet supreme -- and was prescribed not only custom orthopedic insoles but also exercises for the feet themselves, rolling up towels with the toes, etc."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-ferriss/the-barefoot-alternative_b_207121.html

He reported these results after wearing the VFFs:
"Needless to say, the exercises fell by the wayside, and I took to increasing levels of support through the shoes themselves. VFFs have been nothing short of spectacular for me, despite my history of flat feet.

Barefoot runners are often asked "but what do you use for arch support?", to which they respond: "your arches". I've found that my arches, and foot as a whole, feels better with less support rather than more."


This article:

http://buyvibrams.com/why-buy-vibrams/vibram-five-fingers-and-flat-feet

Says that
Many people who want to buy Vibram Five Fingers or other 5 finger shoes are concerned because they have flat feet or a collapsed arch. It’s easy to see how this could raise some concern, but there’s good news. Barefoot running actually helps people with flat feet.

A collapsed arch, or flat feet, can be caused by improper running form. When you slip on a pair of 5 finger shoes, you are forced to correct your stride. The arch in your foot is actually composed of a series of muscles, tendons, and ligaments. The arch is supposed to be there to help absorb the impact of running. When you are wearing a traditional running shoe, you completely eliminate the need for that arch since it is molded into the shoe.

Take this as a comparison. If you were to wear a cast on your hand for 18 years, would your hand have any strength? The answer is no, your hand would likely be held to whatever form it has been held in for 18 years.

To get back to the point, Vibram Five Fingers actually aid people with flat feet. Many people have recovered from a collapsed arch or developed one by changing their running style. With 5 finger shoes, the runner is unable to run on their heel, and subsequently run on the balls of their feet. In turn, the lower leg muscles and muscles in the feet are strengthened.

A Harvard Professor has reviewed the health benefits of barefoot running and shared it with Nature Video. We suggest you watch his video; Harvard Professor’s View of Barefoot Running


http://www.runblogger.com/2011/01/stories-of-success-running-in-vibram.html


This one says that
"Almost two years ago, according to a podiatrist, I had posterior-tibialis insertional tendonitis. He recommended more support and rest, but even with my urging didn't check wear pattern or watch me run. Although flat footed, I am pretty neutral. I think the injury came from an "update" to a favorite shoe. The "update" had an increased heel-forefoot drop, increased arch support and stiffened midsole. My guess is that rather than too little support, there was too much support and pressure on the posterior tibial tendon at the navicular bone, but who knows?

After a few weeks of rest, I decided to go 180 degrees from the recommendation. I got rid of my shoes and insoles and switched to Vibram Fivefingers KSOs. Within two months I had adopted a midfoot/forefoot landing and was running 15 miles on concrete/asphalt in my KSOs. I alternated the KSOs with neutral trainers and racing flats.

About 9 months ago, I retired my KSOs and started running about 80% of my miles in my new Bikilas, including 18 mile long runs and speed workouts. The remainder of my runs have been in racing flats and barefoot. I now believe that starting out barefoot would have been even more helpful. I’ve had no additional injuries (still have 10 year chronic high hamstring tendinopathy...but that’s another story). It’s now cold, icy and snowy here in Chicago, so I’m primarily using my flats (even tried a trail shoe for a few runs) until it warms up."





Here is:
http://www.supplementreviews.com/vibram/five-fingers

A review of VFFs (they were given 10/10 for weightlifting and a 10/10 for running) by a person with "fairly flat feet and generally poor posture, but my Vibrams are very comfortable and I’ve noticed that my posture has greatly improved during my cardio sessions. Additionally the burn throughout my calves during these workouts is FAR more intense and satisfying."



I found ARTICLE after ARTICLE written by people with YOUR condition who reported much healthier feet, arches growing back, less pain in their feet and other joints, better run times, and so on. Tons of benefits for people with YOUR specific condition.

Now, on to the other thing mentioned. Many people recommend the VFFs for squats and deadlifts because MOST people who train want a shoe that is good for that AND running/doing cardio. This is where the VFFs excel over proper lifting shoes.

Also keep in mind, I am not recommending flat shoes for you (or anyone). I am essentially recommending no shoes.


The good news is, I may have found you a cure.
 
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Do you really expect people to take a positive write up on Vibram shoes from a site called buyvibram.com? Not to mention that all the links are broken from copying and pasting.
 
Tombo said:
I'd rather my flat feet hurt a bit than wear ugly shoes though :p
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it's not your feet hurting you should be worrying about, its your knee's mainly.

this could help prevent arthritis, etc. people here are arguing with evolution, the foot has came about due to i think 1 million years of evolution.

shoes should be worn to protect your feet, that is all, they should not be offering support or anything else. they should basically be like a toughened glove for feet, that is what vibram five fingers are, a toughened glove for feet.

using the cast thing as an example, would your arm be stronger or weaker if you had it in a cast for 1 year? weaker, so why do you do this to your feet?

also vibrams come in a variety of different colours and styles, if you watch WEEDS the popular american series, guillermo wears a pair of vibrams to the airport, some people make fun of him and he explains why he wears them.

http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/mens_footwear.htm

you can see the collection here
 
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Tombo said:
The Speed look quite cool actually but I couldn't wear them as everyday shoes.
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they are only available in one colour, if you click on the shoe, on the top right under available colours, you can see the options, click on the small toes and that shoe comes up on screen.

The KSO for example has 5 different colours available.

TBH if you just got a pair to wear around your home (if you wear trainers at home) and in your spare time, etc, rather than work, it could make a huge difference to your joints/bones in your legs as well as your muscles in the leg.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I'm someone who cannot post within SA because i think i am superior but really i'm not due too many issues within my life where i have been belittled
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Hahah issues?

I see cheets has backed you up, kindred spirits you pair, until he finds out you're of an Asian persuasion and then he'll call you a ****

:)
 
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