NEWBIE Q: Should I be looking to overclock as a rule?

I guess it is too late to get a refund ? A £1600 spend should get you an RTX 2080 setup nevermind an RTX 2070 (Assuming that is just for the tower). You also have Ryzen which is better value overall.

If they won't refund you then the Gigabyte Z390 UD is a good entry level board. A Bitfenix Formula is also a good psu and should cost less than something like a Corsair RMx. A good cheap cpu cooler is an Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo or Alpenfohn Brocken 3 depending on what they fitted to start with.
 
looking at some reviews for the cooler it seems ok

If you can run the free download from https://www.userbenchmark.com/ and post the url from the results page when the benchmark finishes.


lee32uk said:
I guess it is too late to get a refund ? A £1600 spend should get you an RTX 2080 setup nevermind an RTX 2070 (Assuming that is just for the tower). You also have Ryzen which is better value overall.
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Pre built machine from ocuk is around £1700 with similar spec from the the coffee lake configurator. If building yourself and using a windows key from an auction site then yes you could.
 
Agree with what's been said so far. And if possible you'll save money just returning it and getting a better system with quality components all around. The fact the system doesn't allow you to overclock a 9700K is good reason enough.

Back to the "Rust" performance issues, and assuming for a moment that it's not the game optimization issues (I believe there are but how much is the question), could you confirm that the display cable is attached to the graphics card and not to a motherboard port? S****y question to ask but best get it out of the way.

We also don't know which specific Gigabyte B360 motherboard it is, for all we know it's something with no VRM heatsinks such as:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...151-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-56f-gi.html

and it might be throttling the 9700K like crazy, who knows.
 
Catman05 said:
Pre built machine from ocuk is around £1700 with similar spec from the the coffee lake configurator. If building yourself and using a windows key from an auction site then yes you could.
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You must be looking at a different system to me. A quick look shows you can get an 8700K, RTX 2070 with Win 10 for just over £1500. Has a decent board, psu and cooler as well.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Coffee Lake Midi Tower Gaming PC Configurator = £1,528.74
    • Case:Kolink Pitch Midi Tower Case - Black
    • Memory **non-Z370/Z390 motherboards limited to 2666MHz**:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30
    • Power Supply:Seasonic Focus Plus 550W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
    • CPU Cooler:Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm
    • M.2 Solid State Drive **For Operating System If Selected**:Unwanted
    • Solid State Drive 1:TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Optical Drive **Please Check Chassis Support**:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 7 working days
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Motherboard:Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
    • Graphics:Palit GeForce RTX 2070 Dual 8192MB PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
Total: £1,542.84 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
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lee32uk said:
You must be looking at a different system to me. A quick look shows you can get an 8700K, RTX 2070 with Win 10 for just over £1500. Has a decent board, psu and cooler as well.
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The op did specify to the company the 9700k, 2070 and Ram I belive (not sure if op specified brands) Maybe case too?

I used the coffee lake pro configurator as it had the 9700k
 
Catman05 said:
The op did specify to the company the 9700k, 2070 and Ram I belive (not sure if op specified brands) Maybe case too?

I used the coffee lake pro configurator as it had the 9700k
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The 8700K and 9700K are usually around the same sort of price (In fact the 8700K is currently more expensive than the 9700K on here). That was just a quick look on my part though, and for less than the op's spend it has a better board and psu.

Another example with a 9700K. Price could be reduced with a cheaper case/psu as 850W is overkill.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Coffee Lake Pro Gaming Configurator = £1,570.78
    • Motherboard:Gigabyte Z390 Gaming SLI Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
    • CPU Cooler:Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30
    • M.2 Solid State Drive **For Operating System If Selected**:Unwanted
    • Solid State Drive 1:TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Optical Drive **Please Check Chassis Support**:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 7 working days
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Case:Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW)
    • Graphics:palit GeForce RTX 2070 Dual 8192MB PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Graphics 2 (SLI/Crossfire):Unwanted
    • NV Link Bridge - Required for Dual RTX Graphics Cards:Unwanted
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020130-UK)
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
Total: £1,584.88 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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lee32uk said:
The 8700K and 9700K are usually around the same sort of price (In fact the 8700K is currently more expensive than the 9700K on here). That was just a quick look on my part though, and for less than the op's spend it has a better board and psu.

Another example with a 9700K. Price could be reduced with a cheaper case/psu as 850W is overkill.
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I stand corrected I only changed CPU, Ram and GPU up to match and forgot to get a cheaper case etc.
Like you say a better board and PSU but I'm curious if the op specified exact components as the Gigabyte Windforce is £100 cheaper than the Aorus card and I would have thought this was a place to save money. It could be a have NVME SSD and 4TB HDD for all we know.
 
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Catman05 said:
I stand corrected I only changed CPU, Ram and GPU up to match and forgot to get a cheaper case etc.
Like you say a better board and PSU but I'm curious if the op specified exact components as the Gigabyte Windforce is £100 cheaper than the Aourus card and I would have thought this was a place to save money. It could be a have NVME SSD and 4TB HDD for all we know.
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Looks like he just looked at other pc's to make his spec, so maybe that one had an Aorus card in it. Even with an NVMe SSD and 4TB HDD he has still been overcharged by quite a bit. Some places just have no morals and will take advantage if they know you have no/little knowledge about what you are buying :( It happened to me many years ago when I bought my 1st pc.
 
lee32uk said:
The 8700K and 9700K are usually around the same sort of price (In fact the 8700K is currently more expensive than the 9700K on here). That was just a quick look on my part though, and for less than the op's spend it has a better board and psu.

Another example with a 9700K. Price could be reduced with a cheaper case/psu as 850W is overkill.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Coffee Lake Pro Gaming Configurator = £1,570.78
    • Motherboard:Gigabyte Z390 Gaming SLI Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM
    • CPU Cooler:Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm
    • Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30
    • M.2 Solid State Drive **For Operating System If Selected**:Unwanted
    • Solid State Drive 1:TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Optical Drive **Please Check Chassis Support**:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 7 working days
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Case:Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW)
    • Graphics:palit GeForce RTX 2070 Dual 8192MB PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Graphics 2 (SLI/Crossfire):Unwanted
    • NV Link Bridge - Required for Dual RTX Graphics Cards:Unwanted
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020130-UK)
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
Total: £1,584.88 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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Yes, quite doable. Even if Catman05 makes a good point about not knowing all the exact parts.

Even a custom spec with 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD and 280mm AIO for overclocking a tad more (refurb but would be covered by system warranty) allowing £100 for build fee, is doable.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,499.02 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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Jason Shaw said:
I think the cooler is an Empire gaming A10 or something like that... Empire cooler 240?
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While best sub £50 heatpipe coolers would likely beat 240 in cooling per noise and best sub £35 coolers 120, at least it's lot better than that motherboard and PSU.
(assuming its quality is good enough to last more than few years)
 
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