And your evidence for this is...?
Poll: Newby ghost photo - ever proved a fake?
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And your evidence for this is...?
Associate
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Ahh yes, I was going to comment on your usage of the word ‘quantum’ a few pages ago, because unless you have a Masters degree in physics I can guarantee you don’t know what it means any more than I do.
If you’ve experienced something, then that is necessarily YOUR experience and by definition means nothing to me. Until you can reproduce it for someone else to investigate and analyse, it is nothing but an anecdote.
You claim to have experienced something but don’t know what it is, which is absolutely fine, but your answer to what it is should be ‘I don’t know’, not ‘******* ghosts!’.
Man of Honour
I once experienced a revelation. I could see the knowledge of how reality worked displayed on a wall, not in my mind.
But of course it was in my mind because everything I experience is filtered through my mind. Just like everyone else. In that particular case, I do know the explanation. I was off my head on LSD. But I experienced that revelation. I knew that the secret of reality had been revealed to me on the bathroom wall. It was there in the moving geometric shapes on the wall, completely clear and understandable. I saw it. I understood it.
On another occasion I experienced a non-human presence in my bedroom. I knew it was there in the room, not in my mind. I didn't know exactly what it was, but I knew it wasn't human. I could see that it wasn't human and, more importantly, I knew that it wasn't human. I know the explanation in that case too - it was sleep paralysis. I'd much rather have known about sleep paralysis before I experienced it - I was terrified. I understand why people who believe in such things believed they were being tormented by a demon of some kind.
But of course it was in my mind because everything I experience is filtered through my mind. Just like everyone else. In that particular case, I do know the explanation. I was off my head on LSD. But I experienced that revelation. I knew that the secret of reality had been revealed to me on the bathroom wall. It was there in the moving geometric shapes on the wall, completely clear and understandable. I saw it. I understood it.
On another occasion I experienced a non-human presence in my bedroom. I knew it was there in the room, not in my mind. I didn't know exactly what it was, but I knew it wasn't human. I could see that it wasn't human and, more importantly, I knew that it wasn't human. I know the explanation in that case too - it was sleep paralysis. I'd much rather have known about sleep paralysis before I experienced it - I was terrified. I understand why people who believe in such things believed they were being tormented by a demon of some kind.
Perhaps you missed some of my posts as isn’t that what I have been saying all along. That I believe the ghost phenomenon is real but not undead souls instead some undiscovered science-based phenomenon instead of being all in the head. Pretty sure I said that more than once that I don’t believe ghosts are dead people only that the phenomenon is taking place in the physical world. Yes if I experienced something its nothing but an anecdote to you but that doesnt change the fact that the event was real and really happened. Plus when a large number of independent people are experiencing similar things all over the world not in one location, that is a form of evidence in itself. Not 100% proof but it lends credence towards what is being said.
To be clear while I am arguing the ghost phenomenon is real I am not arguing for undead ghosts being real. I am arguing against people saying its 100% fake and all in the mind.
Not enough to prove to you that its real but enough to prove to the people involved that its not in the mind and some sort of real event. Multiple people witnessing the same events and in some cases physical objects involved so its impossible to be in the mind like some of the make believe people in here think.
Soldato
I really don't think it matters whether you think they're the undead or a scientific pheonomenon. They are the latter - there are no ghosts.
Soldato
You'll probably notice most people believing in ghosts also believe in things like "karma" or "god" and other superstitions.
I was having chat with some flat earthers a couple of years ago when they popped up in our town centre with some billboards... of course he started talking about the bible as well.
I was having chat with some flat earthers a couple of years ago when they popped up in our town centre with some billboards... of course he started talking about the bible as well.
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What is your point? That doesnt remotely apply to my posts from what I can see.
What matters is if they are not ghosts they what is the physical phenomenon that is happening that is being mistaken as a ghost. Something physical is real and happening.
Soldato
Ah I see, you mean they are stupid or gullible. Makes sense.
It funny but gullible is one of those "adopted" words and not an actual word in the English language.
Man of Honour
I'm the biggest sceptic on here but witches are definitely real and I've been talking to one this afternoon.
Whether you consider her a 'real Witch' is another thing but she reckons she is, does all the stuff associated with it and she would have been burned a few hundred years ago.
Of course there is zero evidence that witches ever did anything paranormal but that's another debate.
The biggest surprise is the first record she bought was Bucks Fizz Making Your Mind Up - that confirmed it for me.
She also lives very near you @Malevolence
Whether you consider her a 'real Witch' is another thing but she reckons she is, does all the stuff associated with it and she would have been burned a few hundred years ago.
Of course there is zero evidence that witches ever did anything paranormal but that's another debate.
The biggest surprise is the first record she bought was Bucks Fizz Making Your Mind Up - that confirmed it for me.
She also lives very near you @Malevolence
Man of Honour
Came back into the thread to find some evidence. None yet I take it? 
I will inform the global committee who await... patiently.
I will inform the global committee who await... patiently.
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I miss having the ability to add fake votes to a poll. Could have added some top trolling in to the poll results 
Soldato
I miss having the ability to add fake votes to a poll. Could have added some top trolling in to the poll results
I’m confused by the 4 people who think it’s real given that the guy that took the photo didn’t even see a ghost
Soldato
It's a bit early to be watching such a lengthy video, but I seem to remember reading something some time back about how the underground can generate all manner of infrasound, and infrasound can really mess with your head and cause you to see/hear all manner of weird ****.
Man of Honour
Saw this pop up and thought to share, some cool ones there, fake or otherwise
Man of Honour
Of course, but gotta hand it to some of them for trying 
Imagine the views revenue you'd rack up from making a simple but convincing ghost video. maybe they were onto something!
Imagine the views revenue you'd rack up from making a simple but convincing ghost video. maybe they were onto something!
Commissario
hahahahahahahahahaha
wow, that was an interesting watch