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Your having a laugh. Clive Woodward doesnt belong in football. I dont care what he's done in the past. Its a different Sport.AJUK said:
Next England Manager
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Put simply, imo, England need Hiddink.
He's not afraid to drop players who dont perform (cough##Gerrard, Beckham, Rio, Cambell), and isnt afraid to play players who deserve to be there (King & Carra for example).
He'll handle the press easy, and whatever his wage demands, he should at least get what Sven does now, if not more.
He's not afraid to drop players who dont perform (cough##Gerrard, Beckham, Rio, Cambell), and isnt afraid to play players who deserve to be there (King & Carra for example).
He'll handle the press easy, and whatever his wage demands, he should at least get what Sven does now, if not more.
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Actually i can see it now, Souness to England, Sven to the Mags. 
vanpeebles said:svens wage was shocking so i cant see it being worse than that
Once bitten, twice shy and all that. The FA knows they made a horrendous gaffe when they were played by Sven, using all the Chelsea/Kenyon hype to raise his stock and sucker them into given him a huge long term contract (making him effectively unsackable).
Of course I was 'avin a larf but one thing's for sure, he wouldn't have fallen for the old fakey sheiky trick and he has experience of actually winning something.BoomAM said:
Seriously though, I really do think the manager should be English.
EDIT: and on a performance related contract......
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I completely agree with that, but can you name 1 Englishman who has the necessary qualities to do the job & whom the FA have the guts to pick?AJUK said:
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AJUK said:
To tell the truth, I couldn't care less (Irish, Scottish and Welsh excepted) what nationality our new manager is, as long as they can get our team to play to it's obvious potential and as JohnnyG said, there isn't any Englishman out there with that sort of experience.
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& German, the talk of that Hitzfeld taking over & seeing Beckenbaur outside No.10 today sent shivers up my spineBig Kev said:
Vandle said:Why?
Still got the chip on the shoulder because he didnt want to play for your team?
I think he would excel in a number 2 role.
Not because of that, I applaude him for choosing his heart over glory. I just wouldn't like it because he makes Schindlers List appear funny.
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Hope someone shot the cheating ****JohnnyG said:...seeing Beckenbaur outside No.10 today sent shivers up my spine
Soldato
As above, Sven gets slated more than he should.
As for it being an English manager. Who cares. Whoevers best regardless of nationality.
There isnt a single good English manager that has European/World experiance.
Hiddink is currently the best that England are gonna get. He's done well with whatever team he's been given. Imagine what he could do with the England team, considering their potential!?
With the team England have got, they should be winning things, or at least getting to the Semi's or Final.
As for it being an English manager. Who cares. Whoevers best regardless of nationality.
There isnt a single good English manager that has European/World experiance.
Hiddink is currently the best that England are gonna get. He's done well with whatever team he's been given. Imagine what he could do with the England team, considering their potential!?
With the team England have got, they should be winning things, or at least getting to the Semi's or Final.
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I totally agree with BoomAM on this one.
If you had to choose from these lists:
Capello, Hiddink, Scolari, Mourinho
or
Allardyce, Curbishley, Pearce, Jewel
Which list looks better? The cream of Europe or the cream of England? I know which 4 I would choose first. This is just Hypothetical of course, but it does put my point across.
If you had to choose from these lists:
Capello, Hiddink, Scolari, Mourinho
or
Allardyce, Curbishley, Pearce, Jewel
Which list looks better? The cream of Europe or the cream of England? I know which 4 I would choose first. This is just Hypothetical of course, but it does put my point across.
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for me I dont need an englishman, but someone with a real passion for it, to do it for the country. Sven did not have that, we need someone who does. (and isn't a carp manager)
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the english manager thing is getting to me. in the past month or so ive seen complete trash like howard wilkinson lecture on qualifications and managers must having them etc, then you see people like lawrie mcmenamy getting awards, and then frank clark on the lma telling people whats what. its a right old boys club full of utterly poor managers
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Same nonsense at Newcastle as you know. Roeder & Shearer can't do it full time because they haven't got the necessary qualifications etc. Which really means they can't do it as it would take a job away from one of the boys
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Ok so i've gathered my thoughts together on why I don't particularly rate any of the english prospects (allardyce, pearce, mclaren, curbishley) for the england job. I'm not even going to consider Jewell as even though Wigan are doing very well its only his first season in the premiership (with wigan) and it could be one off.
Sam Allardyce - potential but ignorant of his own shortcomings and bad rep
I have to admit one thing about big sam is that he's made a small team like Bolton into a team who at the start of the season are put down as likely european qualifiers. It wasn't so long ago that they struggled to even stay in the premiership.
But does he have the respect of the players he's going to be in charge of? Hasn't he over the last few seasons slated a lot of the players in the squad, most recently gerrard. Even though Boltons style of play has improved over the years he's still got a reputation of playing long ball with overly aggressive tactics.
Often he uses the media to put across his beliefs about how the game is unfair to him but then slates the media for not agreeing with him. As england manager he will get even more intense media pressure than he'll ever get at bolton. He won't be able to just blame the ref like he often seems to do currently.
Stuart Pearce - lot of potential much too early
Yes have him involved in the setup but not as manager or even the assistant. He just doesn't have the experience thats needed. Yes he has the passion for the team but his lack of experience can't be helped just by having passion. You can have all the passion in the world but the wrong team with the wrong tactics and your buggered.
Mclaren - should be doing better
I'm not a fan of middlesbrough, I don't even want to watch them if they are on the telly and i'm very bored. I know thats a poor reason to not want him to be english manager but imagine watching an england team playing along the lines that his club do now. Considering he was the great english hope not so long back he's been struggling a lot this year. Afterall newcastle are above him and they just sacked their manager for underachieving. If he can get his club into europe through league placing at the end of this season that will be some achievement.
Curbishley - win something to show your capable
His teams have a reputation of fading during the season. Every year its the same thing they have a period where they play some great football while winning, the rest of the time they either stop scoring or they start to badly leak goals. That for me brings questions about his stubborness with his tactics or possibly his inability to react to the oppositions tactics.
You know what would be hilarious if hitzfield got the job. He never will as the press would tear him apart from day 1 and there would probably be a lynching. But the guy has the credentials and it would incredibly ironic if we won something with him.
If you read through this whole post thank you. I'm bored in work and no one here is capable of having a reasonable discussion about football. Sort of hoping I can get one in here, a long shot I know
Sam Allardyce - potential but ignorant of his own shortcomings and bad rep
I have to admit one thing about big sam is that he's made a small team like Bolton into a team who at the start of the season are put down as likely european qualifiers. It wasn't so long ago that they struggled to even stay in the premiership.
But does he have the respect of the players he's going to be in charge of? Hasn't he over the last few seasons slated a lot of the players in the squad, most recently gerrard. Even though Boltons style of play has improved over the years he's still got a reputation of playing long ball with overly aggressive tactics.
Often he uses the media to put across his beliefs about how the game is unfair to him but then slates the media for not agreeing with him. As england manager he will get even more intense media pressure than he'll ever get at bolton. He won't be able to just blame the ref like he often seems to do currently.
Stuart Pearce - lot of potential much too early
Yes have him involved in the setup but not as manager or even the assistant. He just doesn't have the experience thats needed. Yes he has the passion for the team but his lack of experience can't be helped just by having passion. You can have all the passion in the world but the wrong team with the wrong tactics and your buggered.
Mclaren - should be doing better
I'm not a fan of middlesbrough, I don't even want to watch them if they are on the telly and i'm very bored. I know thats a poor reason to not want him to be english manager but imagine watching an england team playing along the lines that his club do now. Considering he was the great english hope not so long back he's been struggling a lot this year. Afterall newcastle are above him and they just sacked their manager for underachieving. If he can get his club into europe through league placing at the end of this season that will be some achievement.
Curbishley - win something to show your capable
His teams have a reputation of fading during the season. Every year its the same thing they have a period where they play some great football while winning, the rest of the time they either stop scoring or they start to badly leak goals. That for me brings questions about his stubborness with his tactics or possibly his inability to react to the oppositions tactics.
You know what would be hilarious if hitzfield got the job. He never will as the press would tear him apart from day 1 and there would probably be a lynching. But the guy has the credentials and it would incredibly ironic if we won something with him.
If you read through this whole post thank you. I'm bored in work and no one here is capable of having a reasonable discussion about football. Sort of hoping I can get one in here, a long shot I know