***Nexus One Thread***

Mine is being redelivered tomorrow. Hopefully someone will be in (my dad is in until 11am, they tried to deliver at 10:55am last time but he'd gone earlier). My dad is also leaving a note on the door asking him to take it up to his shop if nobody is in.. (with the promise of free food if he does! :D ).
 
Robert said:
For what it is?

1ghz snapdragon?

5MP camera with flash?

3.7" Amoled screen?

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To be honest all mobile devices are overpriced. But when you look at something like the TG-01 which was on Orange PAYG a while back for £150 and has similar specs or even something like the HTC Tattoo for £180 sim free unlocked it's a bit of a rip off, when you consider just how little the extra stuff (screen, camera etc.) actually costs when manufacturing on a mass scale (probably not into double figures when it comes to counting the pennies) i don't feel it should be two or three times the price.
 
Superewza said:
To be honest all mobile devices are overpriced. But when you look at something like the TG-01 which was on Orange PAYG a while back for £150 and has similar specs or even something like the HTC Tattoo for £180 sim free unlocked it's a bit of a rip off, when you consider just how little the extra stuff (screen, camera etc.) actually costs when manufacturing on a mass scale (probably not into double figures when it comes to counting the pennies) i don't feel it should be two or three times the price.
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The iPhone sim free is £729.99 so even when you factor in the extra for a 16gb micro sd to bring the storage up, the Nexus One becomes a bargain!

EDIT: My bad, apply lists it as £449.00, wonder why play.com has it so expensive!
 
Yeah, but my point was for a device being mass produced on this scale it probably costs less than £1 to make, definitely not into double figures. When you think about just how much raw profit that is it starts to smell a bit iffy.
 
Really? My bad then, stupid geography teacher trying to teach me about economics. But still, $174 is £116, add in all the other costs and it can't be more than £200, for one device. But it's not one device, as i said before it's being mass produced so per head it probably works out at less than half that. And what's nearly a 300% markup is huge, i doubt you'd get away with it in many other industries.
 
Again, wrong,

It is mass produced, but that doesn't mean the materials cost any less. They will have calculated that on the market value for the chips, you can't buy them individually. I have no doubt google are making a good profit on it.

Out of interest, 300% is a big mark up, but other industries get away with similar or worse, glasses have around a 200% mark up and popcorn at the cinema is an amazing 900%!
 
Superewza said:
Really? My bad then, stupid geography teacher trying to teach me about economics. But still, $174 is £116, add in all the other costs and it can't be more than £200, for one device. But it's not one device, as i said before it's being mass produced so per head it probably works out at less than half that. And what's nearly a 300% markup is huge, i doubt you'd get away with it in many other industries.
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Are you really that naive? Businesses are there to make a profit. They can charge whatever the market is willing to pay, why would they sell it for cheaper when plenty buy it at a higher price anyway? The only advantage to it being cheaper is that more people would buy them... but then they'd have to make more and employ more staff and have bigger factories.. etc etc making it not worthwhile. Selling less items at a high price is better than selling more items at a lower price.

Also, "being mass produced" doesn't suddenly make the materials half the cost. The cost of the materials is $174, PERIOD. That will be the already reduced price for HTC. R&D can cost £millions, advertising costs a lot, then there's the fact they had to get the OS from google (which they will pay a license/royalty fee on for every phone sold), running a website, a repairs team, warranty returns costs... it all adds up.

And FYI, you get 300% and much much more in a LOT of industries :) .
 
Are Google making profits or are HTC, the actual manufacturer?

And at above, i'm not willing to pay. That's why i made the comment in the first place. It's like Apple products, yes they get more per item sold but if they lowered the price then i'd be willing to bet they would actually make more money due to the amount they would then sell.

I was referring to the £200 figure i came up with, not the cost of the materials. Most manufacturers can get deals where they buy bulk and it works out a lot cheaper for say 1000 units compared to 1 unit, which that investigation was for.
 
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Superewza said:
Are Google making profits or are HTC, the actual manufacturer?

And at above, i'm not willing to pay. That's why i made the comment in the first place. It's like Apple products, yes they get more per item sold but if they lowered the price then i'd be willing to bet they would actually make more money due to the amount they would then sell.

I was referring to the £200 figure i came up with, not the cost of the materials. Most manufacturers can get deals where they buy bulk and it works out a lot cheaper for say 1000 units compared to 1 unit, which that investigation was for.
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- Both need to make a profit, further reducing the profit per item for each company. HTC make it for $174 excluding R&D etc.. then sell it to google, who then have development costs for the OS, who then also have to make a profit too (and a healthy one, other wise why would they bother?).

- Then you don't get one of the best phones out (be it Nexus One or any other similarly priced), to have the best phone out at any given time.. you have to pay for the privilege.

- Of course they get it cheaper. If you or I went to buy one of every component to make one, it would costs more like $1000 I expect! Even buying it in bulk though, it still costs them $174.
 
It's here!! :D . Couldn't do much with it (other than offline) until I went on my WiFi at home, but now it's sailing away!

Any ideas as to why it says my SD card is removed even though it's in there? Will have a quick google and see what I can find out.
 
By "removed" what do you mean? If its mounted as an external drive to a PC via USB the phone won't be able to use it. Pull down the notification bar and click on the "connected via USB" notification, click unmount so long as you're not transferring files.

Failing that, try switching it off and on again :D it's a mini computer, try to fix it like one :D :p
 
It just said it wasn't mounted or something along those lines. Anyway, I took it out, turned the phone on.. then turned it off again and put the card back in and turned on then it worked. Just turning it on and off had no effect!
 
Earth[Tera].bin;16101885 said:
Got my DHL letter through today, £65 they want. In total that means I will have paid around £425 for the phone, cradle and charger.
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How'd you get it so cheap? My phone + delivery cost me £373 so a £65 vat bill will take it to £438. The charger cost me £5 from amazon so my total will be around £443 WITHOUT a cradle.......oh, and my bank charged me £10ish for the conversion so I'll actually be paying £453 overall :( If I'd have ordered the dock we'd be talking a total of around £490-£500. The exchange rate hasn't changed that much has it?
 
Sounds like you get poor rates on the credit/debit card you used. If the VAT bill (as calculated by DHL using exchange rate) is the same, then the exchange rate couldn't have changed much
 
CSlater said:
How'd you get it so cheap? My phone + delivery cost me £373 so a £65 vat bill will take it to £438. The charger cost me £5 from amazon so my total will be around £443 WITHOUT a cradle.......oh, and my bank charged me £10ish for the conversion so I'll actually be paying £453 overall :( If I'd have ordered the dock we'd be talking a total of around £490-£500. The exchange rate hasn't changed that much has it?
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Nah you're quite right, I read it straight from the DHL invoice but it never took into consideration the cradle or the charger. So all in all it cost me around £480 lol
 
On a slightly separate note - what screen protector have people been using?

I bought one off amazon for a whopping £3, just for an interim, and predictably it is already suffering and starting to peel!
 
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