NHS and emergency dental care

I remember being in so much pain with an abscess one night that I lanced it myself with a sterilised needle. Not any kind of medical advice obviously, but the pain relief was instant. :)
 
What felt like half my tooth fell out wednesday night while I was flossing it. Phoned yesterday got an appointment for today, just been and had it extracted. £212. You cant get an NHS appointment so no point fighting the crowds. Dentist service was great actually. I've never had an NHS dentist it's never seemed possible here so it's nothing new to me going private.
 
What felt like half my tooth fell out wednesday night while I was flossing it. Phoned yesterday got an appointment for today, just been and had it extracted. £212. You cant get an NHS appointment so no point fighting the crowds. Dentist service was great actually. I've never had an NHS dentist it's never seemed possible here so it's nothing new to me going private.

If you can afford to its great, when I was in a better position it was good but many aren't and can't even get seen for emergencies let alone basic things, its really so bad.

I live in suffolk and none of the dentists have had spaces for YEARS now.
 
I don't miss the dentistry set up in the UK.

Here, I can email/phone any dentist in the country and get treated within days if not hours. There are costs involved even if you are on national health insurance, but it's better than the UK where it's a struggle to even find a dentist in the first place in many locations.

Fillings are free, but bizarrely a clean and polish is about 70 quid.
 
not one in Cambridge ... dental tourism, or weekend break, needed
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Some hospitals and UK dental schools offer free or low-cost dental treatment. Most of these require a dentist’s or doctor’s referral to consider members of the public for free treatment, while a small number allow self-referrals and can be approached directly. Many stipulate that to receive free treatment it is necessary not to be currently registered with a dentist.
 
Last time I had an abscess, same tooth as preciously been affected, I couldn't get seen in a timely fashion. Someone told me to rub sea salt into the gum where it was and insisted it worked. Gave it a go and within a few minutes, the damn thing exploded in my mouth. After swilling some brandy, pain was gone and it hasn't recurred (7-8 years)
 
Just had half of a root canal done and holly **** was it painful! Got another hour appointment in a couple of weeks to finish it off.

Costing me just shy of a £1000 for root canal and crown. And apparently that’s a discounted price as I’m paying £20 a month membership!

Rip off merchants, gonna go turkey next year and get any more work done including a implant.
 
Definitely isn’t a GP role and it does my nut in when people come to see me with dental problems. I would signpost them to an emergency dental surgery but that is literally all I can do.

GPs become the dumping ground for everything when people struggle and it’s infuriating, and just leads to a worse service for what can do as we get bogged down with other issues and have no appointments left. Would you ask a plumber to do your electrics while they’re sorting your bog out? Or just do a little plastering whilst they’re there?
 
Definitely isn’t a GP role and it does my nut in when people come to see me with dental problems. I would signpost them to an emergency dental surgery but that is literally all I can do.
Emergency dental hospitals only treat people who are referred since covid it seems. that's how the one at the hospital near me works now anyway.

so no surprise if you are getting people who need dental help, I'd imagine a nurse from your surgery could refer them without wasting your time if they had told the receptionist why they are in need of a gp anyway
 
It's what a country rapidly going down the toilet looks like.

if you look on amazon there's a range of diy filling materials, people had to improvise during covid and recession+govt perpetutates that;
truss and rishi talking about friperies like oxbridge interviews or scottish referendum meanwhile rome burns.
( pub quiz question - what was in Laurence Oliviers syringe in marathon man - not one for diddums. )

I agree with rishis missed appointment fines though, and maybe he should add time wastimg.
 
the diy filling materials don't go hard they are like compact chalk when they set and fairly useless other than for 1-2weeks.


You can do permanent yourself with 2 ingredients from the dentist I think, but obviously if you don't properly clean the teeth out first you would likely be wishing you didnt

( dentists have been disingenuous removing people from their books during covid. wish I'd keep records of when the dentist said you don't need to visit for a check-up for a year.)
you don't directly book an appointment for a years time though?
My Dentist always tells people to "book an appointment for however many months" then you go and do that at the receptionist on your way out.

they probably assumed because you hand't been in so long an had no appointments on the system that you just left
could even be an auto purge thing on the system to free up wasted places
 
the diy filling materials don't go hard they are like compact chalk when they set and fairly useless other than for 1-2weeks.
zinc oxide&eugenol / zinc polyxcarbonate do, glass ionmer's(acid mix) is a bit more dangerous .. did you do your lock-down course ?

you don't directly book an appointment for a years time though?
I could/should have done in retrospect .. I do book (private) check up's every 6 months, can always cancel them, but, it is a place-holder if you need attention.
 
Definitely isn’t a GP role and it does my nut in when people come to see me with dental problems. I would signpost them to an emergency dental surgery but that is literally all I can do.

GPs become the dumping ground for everything when people struggle and it’s infuriating, and just leads to a worse service for what can do as we get bogged down with other issues and have no appointments left. Would you ask a plumber to do your electrics while they’re sorting your bog out? Or just do a little plastering whilst they’re there?
Do you not think that attitude just leads to people going to the other dumping ground, A&E though? Like there's literally nowhere else for them to go if 111 can't refer them and a GP is unwilling. Doesn't really help anyone...

The plumber / electrician analogy is interesting, because I'd expect most plumbers to be able to look at some wires on the wall and say "yep, that's a job for an electrician - here's a number for a guy I worked with on a bathroom refitting last month".

How is it that 111 is able to correctly deduce that someone needs to see a dentist but a GP isn't?

Having looked it up the official NHS website now the advice would be to go and sit in A&E, but it just seems like a crazy waste of everyone's time.
 
Do you not think that attitude just leads to people going to the other dumping ground, A&E though? Like there's literally nowhere else for them to go if 111 can't refer them and a GP is unwilling. Doesn't really help anyone...

The plumber / electrician analogy is interesting, because I'd expect most plumbers to be able to look at some wires on the wall and say "yep, that's a job for an electrician - here's a number for a guy I worked with on a bathroom refitting last month".

How is it that 111 is able to correctly deduce that someone needs to see a dentist but a GP isn't?

Having looked it up the official NHS website now the advice would be to go and sit in A&E, but it just seems like a crazy waste of everyone's time.
Very easy to deduce they need a dentist, but we have no booking rights. All a GP can do is advise of an emergency dentist i.e. I worked with an electrician and here’s his number. If you go to a GP with a dental problem, sadly it’s a waste of both your time
 
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