NHS computer systems hacked!?

Ahhh i see.. so when you say backed up not connected to your pc do you mean on external devices etc
External device would work yes but would have to be disconnected from your pc(Happy to be proved wrong but I believe anything connected to the affected system to be at risk). Some ransomware is well written enough to go after network storage. IIRC there's variants that target Dropbox as well (but I think dropboxes version history would defeat that).
 
Aren't the NSC a part of GCHQ? if so they are already on it as well as the NCA. Not sure how easy it is to trace ransomware, expeically if it has lain dormant for a time on the system and just activated today.

I'm sure it's not easy, but GCHQ and the NSA are next level on this kind of thing
 
I bet someone's sweating it now after they opened *that* attachment on *that* email from *Mandy has a special treat for you*
 
Sounds like NHS just happened to get stung if has happened to other companies elsewhere in the world

Considering how this sort of malware works how they going to get back to pre maleware?

They've said no data acessed but that's all very well and good I belive that but what happens if that data that is there has been encrypted ?!
This is what i was thinking, this virus will be spreading via roaming profiles amongst other ways, if it is on the servers then it could also be on their databases of patient info and all the back ups, they could all be infected, lots of cloud systems are used in the various trusts up and down the land.

e: Also lots of 3rd party companies remote in to the NHS systems.
 
I think all the news saying no patient data has been acessed is a bit of a red herring

I believe that but .... what about the data has been encrypted and how are they going to restore everything ... assuming all of it is restorable ?
 
Had this for a customer a couple of weeks ago and had to flatten their server. Online backups were fine so wasn't too bad.

Not surprised this has hit the NHS. Given the potential impact on patient care I hope the author gets found and goes to prison tbh. Unlikely I'm sure.
 
I think all the news saying no patient data has been acessed is a bit of a red herring

I believe that but .... what about the data has been encrypted and how are they going to restore everything ... assuming all of it is restorable ?

If there are offline backups then they can start restoring, but i dont think this is going to be as easy as that. I would like to be wrong on that though.
 
I think all the news saying no patient data has been acessed is a bit of a red herring

I believe that but .... what about the data has been encrypted and how are they going to restore everything ... assuming all of it is restorable ?

Won't it all be stored centrally in a secure location? doctors not being able to log in to a computer to access the data locally is enough to majorly disrupt the NHS.
 
I think all the news saying no patient data has been acessed is a bit of a red herring

I believe that but .... what about the data has been encrypted and how are they going to restore everything ... assuming all of it is restorable ?

I have faith that the system is secure. All of the patient data is on a secure server and only accessed through proprietary software so there's no way that it could have been encrypted.
 
WikiLeaks exposed the fact that the CIA had found security holes in industrial hardware routers/switches and rather than alert the manufacturers they just kept quiet so that they could spy themselves, I thought at the time it's pretty stupid to think hackers wouldn't find those same holes sooner or later. That said I bet some NHS computers are still running Windows 95.

Where they not also buying stuff 'off the shelf' from criminal groups so as to give their hacking some level Plausible deniability. It's not like theses groups wouldn't then also sell on that same software to others, right...
 
Any more background on other companies potentially being hit here? Any sources?
There is loads of stuff about Telefonica on Twitter and Spanish news. All employees were told to turn off their computers today, this was an hour or two before the NHS news came out. I guess Telefonica probably do quite a lot of work with the NHS (either directly or via their Uk company O2) so it was likely spread via email.
 
I have posted many a time on here when someone at our place has ran a cryptolocker.

When we've had cryptolockers since I've been there all but 1 of them has been stopped from spreading through directories by user permission access, I think that was odin or it might have been zepto I can't remember there's been too many.

I'm not surprised this has happened, what I am surprised by is that it is spreading across multiple sites (?), I've no idea how NHS sites and file shares are linked, unless lots of people have been duped by the same email today?
 
Has anyone successfully had their files decrypted from this? I'd rather not hand cash over to the ***** but I gotta be pragmatic. The ransom is significantly less than the cost of lost time of the staff recreating the work done since the last backup, and I'll have to flatten the server and reinstall anyway.
 
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