NHS computer systems hacked!?

chef-borjan · 12 May 2017 at 18:29

Very frustrating to read, hopefully from this better systems will have to come in place.

Mynight · 12 May 2017 at 18:30

chef-borjan said:
Very frustrating to read, hopefully from this better systems will have to come in place.

Yeah it'll cost 100million and get cancelled half way through.

Arazi · 12 May 2017 at 18:30

touch said:
I don't think so.
There's no way the NHS will pay the ransom and the high profile of it means it'll get thoroughly investigated - both in terms of who did it and how it happened in order to stop further infections.
Not only will the attacker get no money, they'll also be less likely to be able to infect other users who might have paid.

I don't think the NHS will pay also, i never said they would, and this is not for a ransom, it is a worldwide issue, to cause chaos, not for a ransom.

e: If it was just a user clicking a dodgy email link then this would happen everyday, it has nothing to do with that imo.

touch · 12 May 2017 at 18:33

Arazi said:
I don't think the NHS will pay also, i never said they would, and this is not for a ransom, it is a worldwide issue, to cause chaos, not for a ransom.

I think it's more likely to be a standard ransomeware attack indiscriminately spread through hacked websites or email.
I don't believe it was targeted.

CREATIVE!11 · 12 May 2017 at 18:33

hyperseven said:
So $300 is that total, per user, per PC?

I assume NHS has backups, and they will just wipe the affected pc's.

If not... rip.

muon · 12 May 2017 at 18:34

Cyberattack lol.

This is just a self propagating randomware virus which have existed for a very long time.

Amazed the network has been set up for it to be able to propagate like this.

These attacks only really work on Home PCs. I don't see why you would try and get on major networks and then ask for $300.

Arazi · 12 May 2017 at 18:35

touch said:
I think it's more likely to be a standard ransomeware attack indiscriminately spread through hacked websites or email.
I don't believe it was targeted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39901382

chef-borjan · 12 May 2017 at 18:36

Mynight said:
Yeah it'll cost 100million and get cancelled half way through.

Which would be even more frustrating... sure enough is enough right?

muon · 12 May 2017 at 18:37

Arazi said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39901382

These emails aren't sent out one at a time.

They are sent out in runs.

Arazi · 12 May 2017 at 18:37

chef-borjan said:
Which would be even more frustrating... sure enough is enough right?

They blew 9 Billion last time I think, and that never got used in the end.

touch · 12 May 2017 at 18:38

Arazi said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39901382

Does that not prove my point then? With so many infections across various companies worldwide then it's not a targeted attack on the NHS.

Arazi · 12 May 2017 at 18:38

muon said:
These emails aren't sent out one at a time.

They are sent out in runs.

I know.

awaybreaktoday · 12 May 2017 at 18:38

Patient files will be affected.....

Arazi · 12 May 2017 at 18:39

touch said:
Does that not prove my point then? With so many infections across various companies worldwide then it's not a targeted attack on the NHS.

Sorry, i didnt mean just on the NHS, i meant the companies besides the NHS as well, i thought i posted that earlier.

muon · 12 May 2017 at 18:41

awaybreaktoday said:
Patient files will be affected.....

I doubt the main stores of patient files are affected. Even if they are they will have backups.

It is just that people are unable to access them.

awaybreaktoday · 12 May 2017 at 18:41

Full wipe and restore from backup... However if delayed attack backups could be useless...

muon · 12 May 2017 at 18:42

Arazi said:
I know.

So how is this not indiscriminate then?

Rroff · 12 May 2017 at 18:43

awaybreaktoday said:
Full wipe and restore from backup... However if delayed attack backups could be useless...

Backups won't (shouldn't) be encrypted (by malware) if it was a delayed attack and any executable (which probably wouldn't be backed up as part of records, etc.) can be forensically examined before being restored to use.

antijoke · 12 May 2017 at 18:44

Malevolence said:
Will anybody be surprised when it transpires that the thing originated in Russia and the Russian authorities, when asked for help, just say "/meh"?

Theresa May will blame Russia for interfering in the election because of this.

Haggisman · 12 May 2017 at 18:44

Zatoichi.uK said:
Given the potential impact on patient care I hope the author gets found and goes to prison tbh. Unlikely I'm sure.

Manslaughter charge for every patient who dies due to the disruption caused by this IMO...