NHS Rant

[Dis86]

you must have a pretty big set, if you would allow a surgeon to operate on your brain based off a facetime image he saw 2 hours ago.
and yes, the patient's images went with the patient to the neurosurgical centre in a cd.

but yes, my point exactly. this wasn't technically kosher by trust standards and all done off our own personal mobiles, when this should be standard.

Not really. If it's just an image it can be shared by mms or email. Most phones can take images of a very high resolution. Opening it on a screen means they can zoom in to the affected areas for an even clearer view. Even video can be hd.

 

[tamzzy]

If it's just an image

sorry, CT scan to be exact. but it fit on a cd, so should've been <700mb.
other scans can be bigger depending on what kind of CT/MRI it was.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

sorry, CT scan to be exact. but it fit on a cd, so should've been <700mb.
other scans can be bigger depending on what kind of CT/MRI it was.

Yes, I picked a CD up yesterday that was 3.6gb.
Every now and then I have to take a screen grab of an X-Ray and I have to always tell the receiver that it is 'non diagnostic'.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I wonder what will come of the complaint email I sent though.

You still let it run.
As soon as it is put on the DATIX system many people will get an email notification to do with that discipline, an MDT will be held and hopefully you will get a Letter of Response.
It could take a while though, not sure if like my department it has to be within 1 month!

 

[Minstadave]

You still let it run.
As soon as it is put on the DATIX system many people will get an email notification to do with that discipline, an MDT will be held and hopefully you will get a Letter of Response.
It could take a while though, not sure if like my department it has to be within 1 month!

It’s it a formal complaint then there is a mandatory response period, 20 working days iirc for an initial response.

 

[Gabbatek]

this is what happens when the conservatives get hold of the nhs and cut it's budget insanely, then chuck it tiny amounts of money saying they're funding it.

waiting times have increased dramatically since 2010

 

[Roar87]

this is what happens when the conservatives get hold of the nhs and cut it's budget insanely, then chuck it tiny amounts of money saying they're funding it.

waiting times have increased dramatically since 2010

We're getting the health care service we can afford pretty much, if people want socialised health care this is the socialised health care the UK in 2018 is getting for the amount of tax money we collect

 

[Angilion]

Not really. If it's just an image it can be shared by mms or email. Most phones can take images of a very high resolution. Opening it on a screen means they can zoom in to the affected areas for an even clearer view. Even video can be hd.

Running a massive medical IT operation on the back of thousands of personal phones brought in by the people working for the organisation is not a very good plan. Better IT would certainly be useful in the NHS, but not like that. It might do at a push, but it can't be the basis for the whole thing. Although it might be better than the current setup or the blitheringly incompetent attempt to improve it that wasted a fortune not so long ago. IIRC, that wasted >£10B and is routinely used as an example of what not to do.

 

[Energize]

Yes, I picked a CD up yesterday that was 3.6gb.
Every now and then I have to take a screen grab of an X-Ray and I have to always tell the receiver that it is 'non diagnostic'.

That's a dvd not a cd.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

That's a dvd not a cd.

EXACTLY and not just a 1 meg jpg.
I picked another patients PACS Images up yesterday on 2 DVDs.
We are in talks now about how we can get patients records to 3rd parties uploading to a cloud and the size of Xrays is the stumbling block.

 

[jonneymendoza]

privatise this whole lot!!!! NHS is a complete farce!

 

[Dis86]

Running a massive medical IT operation on the back of thousands of personal phones brought in by the people working for the organisation is not a very good plan. Better IT would certainly be useful in the NHS, but not like that. It might do at a push, but it can't be the basis for the whole thing. Although it might be better than the current setup or the blitheringly incompetent attempt to improve it that wasted a fortune not so long ago. IIRC, that wasted >£10B and is routinely used as an example of what not to do.

Why are they personal? The surgeries and hospitals up here issue staff with phones and tablets. All of which are apple devices and so are compatible with one another.
I've posted on the hilarity of this situation before where these devices have a habit of going missing and so one of the trust's brought in a policy of you lose it twice and it gets replaced with a cheap model. This then fell flat on its face when said cheap tablets and Nokia phones weren't compatible with the Apple tech so the people had to be issued with an apple device again wasting even more money!

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Why are they personal? The surgeries and hospitals up here issue staff with phones and tablets. All of which are apple devices and so are compatible with one another.
I've posted on the hilarity of this situation before where these devices have a habit of going missing and so one of the trust's brought in a policy of you lose it twice and it gets replaced with a cheap model. This then fell flat on its face when said cheap tablets and Nokia phones weren't compatible with the Apple tech so the people had to be issued with an apple device again wasting even more money!

We also have lots of staff with phones & tablets the trouble is some of the software they upload to is a farce.

 

[adidan]

privatise this whole lot!!!! NHS is a complete farce!

That works at being even more expensive to the taxpayer and a worse service if you look at other countries.

We are reaping the outcomes of underfunding, meddling and part privatisation. That's the Tories general pattern of behaviour with the NHS.

 

[jonneymendoza]

That works at being even more expensive to the taxpayer and a worse service if you look at other countries.

We are reaping the outcomes of underfunding, meddling and part privatisation. That's the Tories general pattern of behaviour with the NHS.

Then give more money to the NHS

 

[adidan]

Then give more money to the NHS

Yup, that is the answer.

Sometimes people on the news/media/whatever say there are problems because of an ageing population. That's not a 'problem', that's a sign of the success of the NHS so we need to invest more money to work on that success.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Yup, that is the answer.

Sometimes people on the news/media/whatever say there are problems because of an ageing population. That's not a 'problem', that's a sign of the success of the NHS so we need to invest more money to work on that success.

We don't wanna put more money by raising taxes though

 

[Minstadave]

Yup, that is the answer.

Sometimes people on the news/media/whatever say there are problems because of an ageing population. That's not a 'problem', that's a sign of the success of the NHS so we need to invest more money to work on that success.

More money helps but I’d rather see the running of the NHS moved out of the hands of the Government and left to people who know what they’re doing and can plan beyond the next election.

 

[Minstadave]

We don't wanna put more money by raising taxes though

You’ve got to raise taxes if you want to pay the piper.

 

[adidan]

We don't wanna put more money by raising taxes though

I would pay more tax for a better society and better services, no problem whatsoever.

More money helps but I’d rather see the running of the NHS moved out of the hands of the Government and left to people who know what they’re doing and can plan beyond the next election.

Agree 100%.