Nibiru..2012 the end?

is it just possible that the world government have know about this since 1983 when the 1st infra-red telescope went up, Was the 2008 bank failures a way of siphoning money away to pay for research/preventive measures? Quantitative easing? Is Copenhagen conference about nibiru? I mean there is a possibility that all of that is true however slim you cannot deny that as I am sure that if this was the case the last people to know would be the general public.

Dr. Robert S. Harrington, the chief astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory, died before he could publicize the fact that Planet X is approaching our Solar System.

Many feel his death part of a cove-up? One in which government agencies quickly moved to conceal the most earth-shaking discovery in history. If so, the search for truth begins in New Zealand.

In 1991, Dr. Robert S. Harrington, the chief astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory, took a puny 8-inch telescope to Black Birch, New Zealand, one of the few viewing points on Earth optimal for sighting Planet X, which he definitively calculated to be approaching from below the ecliptic at an angle of 40 degrees.
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The Independent, September 18, 1990
Lexical priming and the properties of text, quotation of British newspaper,

Dr Harrington says the most remarkable feature predicted for Planet X is that its orbit is tilted 30 degrees away from the ecliptic, the main plane of the solar system, where all previous searches have concentrated. His models also predict a greater distance from the Sun, about 10 billion miles, or between two or three times as distant as Pluto.
 
Not really, if there was a brown dwarf heading in this direction we would see it. Not with telescopes, with human eyeballs.

I highly doubt you can see something that is 3X further out than pluto with the human eye. As the light given off is only seen in the infra-red spectrum.
 
Was just having a read on Wikipedia (wanted to know what a brown dwarf was:p) Came accross this which i found funny...

The idea was first proposed in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extra-terrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the solar system in May 2003 (later revised to around 2010), causing a pole shift that would destroy most of humanity.
 
I highly doubt you can see something that is 3X further out than pluto with the human eye. As the light given off is only seen in the infra-red spectrum.

It also happens to be absolutely bloody huge. And even a brown dwarf would give off visible light.
 
Some astronomers say the heat-emitting object is an unseen collapsed star or possibly a "brown dwarf" — a protostar that never got hot enough to become a star. However, a growing number of astronomers insist that the object is a dark, gaseous mass that is slowly evolving into a planet.


U.S. News and World Report, September 10, 1984
Planet X — Is It Really Out There?

JPEG Images courtesy of John DiNardo: Sidebar

Shrouded from the sun's light, mysteriously tugging at the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, is an unseen force that astronomers suspect may be PLanet X — a 10th resident of the Earth's celestial neighborhood.

Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation.



"All I can say is that we don't know what it is yet," says Gerry Neugenbaur, director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Instititute of Technology. Scientists are hopeful that the one-way journeys of the Pioneer 10 and 11 space probes may help to locate the nameless body.

Some astronomers say the heat-emitting object is an unseen collapsed star or possibly a "brown dwarf" — a protostar that never got hot enough to become a star. However, a growing number of astronomers insist that the object is a dar, gaseous mass that is slowly evolving into a planet.

For decades, astromers have noted that the orbits of two huge, distant planets — Neptune and Uranus —deviate slightly from what they should be according to the laws of physics. Gravitational pull from Planet X would explain that deviation.

Morever, says Neugebaur, "if we can show that our own solar system is still creating planets, we'll know that it's happening around other stars, too."
 
RA 9:47:56 , DEC +13:15:28 in microsoft WWT

zoom in? Can't see anything? switch to IRIS:Improved Reprocessing.
Bingo !

Its Big and its Hot !
 
RA 9:47:56 , DEC +13:15:28 in microsoft WWT

zoom in? Can't see anything? switch to IRIS:Improved Reprocessing.
Bingo !

Its Big and its Hot !

Come on now labrat, how many people would be looking for this in the world today?

If it is real and was out there we wouldn't be seeing the same images over and over again.

Also the ra and dec you give, all i see is mars
 
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no its right on the blue line ecliptic orbit only visible in IRIS to left and down from mars



video is bit :eek:
 
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no its right on the blue line ecliptic orbit only visible in IRIS to left and down from mars



video is bit :eek:

Except about 4 minutes in, he says this object is within Neptune's orbit. This contradicts your earlier post which said it's 3 times more distant than Pluto.
 
/Nasa-prepares-launch-seeing-telescope-entirely-change-vision-solar-system

Is it to track the brown Dwarf ?

1983 article
2nd part of 1983 article


It just seems a bit fishy that we have waited 26 years to relaunch a infra-red telescope, and that there was a massive infra-red telescope built at the Antarctic in 2004 which by all accounts was built in a hurry. Is the Copenhagen treaty a cover for international talks on the incoming threat of Nibiru?

Time will tell!

Oh good grief.

Do you realise that you're arguing that every previous observation is wrong, that the maths involved is fundamentally wrong, that the entire field of astronomy is fundamentally wrong and that the theory of mavity is fundamentally wrong?

If there was a brown dwarf incoming for 2012, you wouldn't even need a telescope to see it by now. You'd be able to see it with the naked eye. In daylight. In a city. With all the lights on. It wouldn't be much dimmer than a full moon.

Also, everyone observing the motion of the outer planets (and there are many different people doing so) would have noticed the perturbation of their orbits caused by the gravitational field of a brown dwarf.

Ridiculous.
 
is it just possible that the world government have know about this since 1983 when the 1st infra-red telescope went up, Was the 2008 bank failures a way of siphoning money away to pay for research/preventive measures? Quantitative easing? Is Copenhagen conference about nibiru? I mean there is a possibility that all of that is true however slim you cannot deny that as I am sure that if this was the case the last people to know would be the general public.

I can deny it because if there was an incoming brown dwarf on a 3500 year orbit due to pass through Earth's orbit in 2012 I would be able to see it myself by now, without a telescope.

Jeez, this isn't advanced science. How the hell could this world government (which doesn't even exist) hide a brown dwarf in space?

If this conspiracy existed and if it was capable of hiding the light and mavity of a brown dwarf, there still wouldn't be a problem because then they'd had the technology to push it out the way.

This would be a joke as a plot for a B-grade sci-fi film, let alone as reality.
 
I highly doubt you can see something that is 3X further out than pluto with the human eye. As the light given off is only seen in the infra-red spectrum.

A brown dwarf close enough to be on a 3500 year orbit and to cross Earth's orbit in 2012 would by now be the third brightest object in the sky, after the sun and a full moon. Brown dwarfs don't only emit infrared. They also emit in the visible light spectrum. Much less, certainly, but some. Far more than enough to make one visible to the naked eye if it was close enough to be getting here by 2012 on a 3500 year orbit.

Even if you ingore that, the inconvenient fact of mavity remains. If there was a brown dwarf within 4000 AU, it could be detected easily by mavity alone. 4000 AU is more than 100 times further out than Pluto.

Put simply - it isn't there. No end of people have been looking for it for decades. It's not there. It doesn't exist. It could not be concealed if it did exist.

By the way, that 1983 finding you mentioned was looking at far more distant objects. Some luminous gas clouds in our own galaxy, some other galaxies. That's one problem with single observations from a single point in space - you can't immediately tell if you're looking at a weaker, closer source or a stronger, more distant source. The astronomers, of course, said that explicitly and, of course, were ignored by conspiracy believers desperate for some some data they could pretend propped up their faith.

Unsurprisingly, the astonomers kept looking. They published their results:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/n...J...290L...5H&db_key=AST&high=3ccf23290006822
 
For decades, astromers have noted that the orbits of two huge, distant planets — Neptune and Uranus —deviate slightly from what they should be according to the laws of physics. Gravitational pull from Planet X would explain that deviation.

As would the observation errors that astronomers noted decades ago.

Those deviations in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus? They're not real. They were observational errors introduced by less sensitive equipment. Astronomers noticed that a very long time ago.

Besides, there's a big difference between a Mars-sized planet 100AU out (which might possibly exist) and a brown dwarf that's going to hit the Earth in 2012 (which can't possbly exist unless it's being teleported in a couple of years from now).
 
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This whole Nibiru, Planet X thing has got to be one of the most pathetic and utterly insane conspiracy theories I have heard, and I'm just so astonished that its as popular as it is!! Even the one about the royal family secretly being lizards is more believable than this! :eek:

The standards of today's conspiracy theorists have declined dramatically! Can't they think of anything better? Or maybe its perhaps todays society is so bad that the need for escapism has increased?
 
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