Nibiru..2012 the end?

Orbit of Planet X (Nibiru)
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Angilion said:
I can deny it because if there was an incoming brown dwarf on a 3500 year orbit due to pass through Earth's orbit in 2012 I would be able to see it myself by now, without a telescope.

Jeez, this isn't advanced science. How the hell could this world government (which doesn't even exist) hide a brown dwarf in space?

If this conspiracy existed and if it was capable of hiding the light and mavity of a brown dwarf, there still wouldn't be a problem because then they'd had the technology to push it out the way.

This would be a joke as a plot for a B-grade sci-fi film, let alone as reality.
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Angilion said:
A brown dwarf close enough to be on a 3500 year orbit and to cross Earth's orbit in 2012 would by now be the third brightest object in the sky, after the sun and a full moon. Brown dwarfs don't only emit infrared. They also emit in the visible light spectrum. Much less, certainly, but some. Far more than enough to make one visible to the naked eye if it was close enough to be getting here by 2012 on a 3500 year orbit.

Even if you ingore that, the inconvenient fact of mavity remains. If there was a brown dwarf within 4000 AU, it could be detected easily by mavity alone. 4000 AU is more than 100 times further out than Pluto.

Put simply - it isn't there. No end of people have been looking for it for decades. It's not there. It doesn't exist. It could not be concealed if it did exist.

By the way, that 1983 finding you mentioned was looking at far more distant objects. Some luminous gas clouds in our own galaxy, some other galaxies. That's one problem with single observations from a single point in space - you can't immediately tell if you're looking at a weaker, closer source or a stronger, more distant source. The astronomers, of course, said that explicitly and, of course, were ignored by conspiracy believers desperate for some some data they could pretend propped up their faith.

Unsurprisingly, the astonomers kept looking. They published their results:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/n...J...290L...5H&db_key=AST&high=3ccf23290006822
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Your facts and science have no place here!
 
Angilion said:
As would the observation errors that astronomers noted decades ago.

Those deviations in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus? They're not real. They were observational errors introduced by less sensitive equipment. Astronomers noticed that a very long time ago.

Besides, there's a big difference between a Mars-sized planet 100AU out (which might possibly exist) and a brown dwarf that's going to hit the Earth in 2012 (which can't possbly exist unless it's being teleported in a couple of years from now).
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its not going to hit, its passes by neptune but the sheer mass of it will greatly effect our puny planet
 
I've given up with humanity, there's too many stupid people, It would be a mercy killing if we did crash into a brown star, at least we wouldn't have to put up with this garbage.
 
Oh theres a diagram, well Im convinced.

Im no exptert, but what is it orbiting around? Wouldnt it hit something else on its travels?
 
Azagoth said:
Even disregarding that ridiculous 'Planet X' orbit, how many planets are there beyond Earth's orbit? :p
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LOL, I didn't catch that to begin with.

If they're counting Ceres as a planet, as well as Pluto, that would make 7. Or maybe they're counting a Secret Planet-Sized Alien Mothership as a planet. Hey, the aliens have to live somewhere.

Or maybe they think Mercury and Venus are further out than Earth, as that diagram shows no planets closer to the Sun than Earth is.

Is an orbit as elliptical as the fictional 'Planet X' orbit at all possible? I think it isn't. I think an object on that trajectory would escape the gravitational pull of the Sun and go flying off into space.
 
LabR@t said:
its not going to hit, its passes by neptune but the sheer mass of it will greatly effect our puny planet
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In order for your previous posts to make any sense at all, this entirely fictional object must have very little mass. If it had anywhere near enough mass to greatly affect Earth merely by passing by Neptune (which averages about 30 AU away), then it would have more than enough mass to have been detected already, even if was made of completely invisible unobtanium.

It's just simply not there.

The only way this risible sub-par B-movie sci-fi plot can make any sense is if this object is currently somewhere else in the universe and will be teleported in at some point in the future.
 
rover416i said:
That's bull. The sun would affect it's orbit passing that close!
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thats the sort of orbit comets do, planets can do that as well, and they do. At its closest point to the sun it will be going much much much faster than anything else in the solar system, so if it WAS a planet, it would probably break up and create 1000s of comets, so i very much doubt this "thing" is true as i doubt a planet would be able to withstand so many orbits of that nature.
 
With some luck it will pass close enough for us to deport all the nut jobs onto it and watch in bliss as it ***** off for another 3500 years
 
LabR@t said:
its not going to hit, its passes by neptune but the sheer mass of it will greatly effect our puny planet
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Please go outside and learn about the world. Dont read about it from the internet, its full of porn and idiots who we would normally ignore.

IF, there was a brown dwarf heading for us the following would apply.

1. We would see it.

That is all.

Hell, you can see some planets in the night sky without a telescope, so a 'massive brown dwarf' should be clearly visible.

BTW, if Jupiter had twice its mass, it wouldnt get any larger. Infact some belive that its a 'failed star', since it never got the required mass to start fusion.
 
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