Nikon D7500

stulid · 12 Apr 2017 at 16:50

http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/product/digital-cameras/slr/consumer/d7500

A new camera, £1300 body-only is what Ive seen online.

Could be a good upgrade if you are like me and have a D3200?

Steve M · 12 Apr 2017 at 17:46

That's D750 money, and I know which I'd rather have..

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 Apr 2017 at 18:17

So if you want any other than a crap pentamirror with Nikon you will need to spend well over £1000 now,once retailers run out of D7200 stocks?? The D750 is not massively higher in price too.

The worst thing is the AF is not any better than the D7200 and there is one less memory slot too - yes the sensor is better and it can do 4K video now,but the competition is more intense too.

At this rate,it would not surprise me if we don't actually have a proper D600/D610 replacement and it will be more a D750 replacement but priced at over £2000.

D.P. · 12 Apr 2017 at 19:05

The sensor from the D500 and 8FPS is pretty good.

sniperone · 12 Apr 2017 at 20:20

Buffer is not as good as the d500 though.

D.P. · 12 Apr 2017 at 20:35

sniperone said:
Buffer is not as good as the d500 though.

If it was there would be little need to buy the D500.

And just because the AF system has the same number of focus points as the D7200 doesn't mean it will perform the same. Firmware and CPU performance makes the biggest difference Was obvious it wouldn't get the D500/D5 AF system but the D4/D4s is plenty good enough at that price point.

Holst1981 · 12 Apr 2017 at 22:56

I'm still using the 7100 and won't upgrade.
Mostly shooting wildlife.

Seems expensive. £500 more than I paid for my 7100 (I think it was £800)

The extra Fps and buffer might help occasionally but I'm getting good results with the 7100, even with its awful buffer.

Better AF might help, but again 7100 seems good enough for me. Plus learning a new AF system takes time.

Sensor seems like a sidegrade, maybe small improvement at some iso.

Tilting screen is a nice addition.

Snapbridge falls down on the software side.

Another incremental update with a substantial price increase.

This highlights for me the problem nikon have.
The new models just don't offer enough extra to tempt me to upgrade. Lots of nice additions but no killer feature.

I guess the 7100 was a good buy, looks like I'm going to get 5 years use from it.

Tackle_Berry · 13 Apr 2017 at 09:35

I'm holding out not buying a D750 and waiting for the replacement but if the price of this is anything to go by it's going to be too expensive anyway.

D.P. · 13 Apr 2017 at 12:15

The price difference is largely down to Brexit.The D7200 was $1200 RRp the D7500 is now 1250. Accounting for inflation that is something like a $20-30 price increase.

zeam · 13 Apr 2017 at 12:40

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So if you want any other than a crap pentamirror with Nikon you will need to spend well over £1000 now,once retailers run out of D7200 stocks?? The D750 is not massively higher in price too.

The worst thing is the AF is not any better than the D7200 and there is one less memory slot too - yes the sensor is better and it can do 4K video now,but the competition is more intense too.

At this rate,it would not surprise me if we don't actually have a proper D600/D610 replacement and it will be more a D750 replacement but priced at over £2000.

wouldnt surprise me at all if this happen, the 610 and 750 upgrade gets rolled into one and removes an fx from the lineup all together

D.P. · 13 Apr 2017 at 15:21

zeam said:
wouldnt surprise me at all if this happen, the 610 and 750 upgrade gets rolled into one and removes an fx from the lineup all together

Nikon have been going in the opposite direction and making as many FX cameras as possible. Their strategy has to be to try and up-sell DX users to the FF platform, turning a $1000 purchase in to a $2000 purchase with the need to buy some new lenses. Caera volumes are dropping so to generate significant revenue all camera makers are desperate for you to move up a level or 2.

Whether the D610 and the D750 get merged is debatable. The D610 has entry-level AF, the D750 is marketed as having premium AF. The limiting factor going forwards will be product differentiation. They Could bump the D610 successor to the 51PTAF system of the D750 and the D750 successor could get the D5 AF sensors. But then Nikon have to be very careful that the D7500 successor doesn't get to close to the D5 and cost sales. Nikon made that expensive mistake with the D700 and D3, they wont be doing that again in a hurry. They can try to severely limit the buffer and FPS of the D750 successor, but then you might as well bu the D810 or the imminent D900/820 and make use of the slower buffer with better image data.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Apr 2017 at 18:09

TBH,they could have the same body as the D610 for all I care,but if they have a successor with a newer sensor and better AF at least I have an upgrade path in a few years. My main worry is they end up bumping up the price massively.

D.P. · 13 Apr 2017 at 18:21

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
TBH,they could have the same body as the D610 for all I care,but if they have a successor with a newer sensor and better AF at least I have an upgrade path in a few years. My main worry is they end up bumping up the price massively.

Nikon upping the price or forex issues due to Brexit? The D7500 increased i price by 4% with at least half of that being down to inflation.

If you are on a D610 now then you already have some good options to upgrade such a a D750 or D800/D810, especially looking second hand. You can also get great deals on a D4 for example. all depends if you want better performance or better image quality. I don't really see what a D620 would get you that doesn't exist in the D750.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Apr 2017 at 19:06

D.P. said:
Nikon upping the price or forex issues due to Brexit? The D7500 increased i price by 4% with at least half of that being down to inflation.

If you are on a D610 now then you already have some good options to upgrade such a a D750 or D800/D810, especially looking second hand. You can also get great deals on a D4 for example. all depends if you want better performance or better image quality. I don't really see what a D620 would get you that doesn't exist in the D750.

I am not in a rush to upgrade this year,but I will see in the next year or two what things look like,especially what the competition is bringing out and I will judge it from there.

xaldub · 13 Apr 2017 at 21:47

A camera that doesn't need to exist ( and this is coming from someone who likes Nikon ) ....

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Apr 2017 at 23:20

xaldub said:
A camera that doesn't need to exist ( and this is coming from someone who likes Nikon ) ....

Yep,they should have kept the D500 where it is and instead of the meh D5600 we got,they should uprated that model with a pentaprism,4K and better AF and kept the price down.

If I was in the market for a D7500 at £1300 I would rather find the few £100 more and get a D500 TBH.

hux · 13 Apr 2017 at 23:30

Not worth the extra, similar story with the 5DIV.

Steve M · 14 Apr 2017 at 09:34

hux said:
Not worth the extra, similar story with the 5DIV.

Agreed. Cameras are so advanced these days that the manufacturers are struggling to top them. Will be years before I need to upgrade my D750 as it's just so good.

D.P. · 14 Apr 2017 at 16:04

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Yep,they should have kept the D500 where it is and instead of the meh D5600 we got,they should uprated that model with a pentaprism,4K and better AF and kept the price down.

If I was in the market for a D7500 at £1300 I would rather find the few £100 more and get a D500 TBH.

the UK pricing is probably just messed up, plus the D500 is already sliding in price.

The D7500 RRP is $1250, the D500 RRP is $2000. That is a big price difference and the D7500 gets you most of the same performance as the D500 for a lot less.

D.P. · 14 Apr 2017 at 16:09

hux said:
Not worth the extra, similar story with the 5DIV.

As I said above, it is only $50 more than the D7200 was released at and #30 of that alone is going to be down to inflation.

There is always the same remarks when a new camera is released and people just totally miss the facts that the old camera is only cheaper now it has been heavily discounted. At release the prices were much similar. For an extra $30 over the D7200 RRP the D7500 has a lot of extra features and performance. OF course you can now buy a D7200.

It all depends on what you want out of the camera. A D90 can be picked up for peanuts and still produces fantastic images and can handle most common auto-focus situations.