Nikon D810.

An Exception · 28 Jul 2014 at 20:23

Ok D810's arrived today. Firstly I REALLY like the shutter compared to the D800E's, especially in QC mode.

Raymond Lin · 28 Jul 2014 at 20:37

It's still quite loud, the 5D3 is much quieter than that.

Akagi · 28 Jul 2014 at 20:41

*edit* skipped to the wrong bits of the video, ignore.

An Exception · 28 Jul 2014 at 20:57

Lol so you could hear a difference?

D.P. · 28 Jul 2014 at 21:35

Raymond Lin said:
It's still quite loud, the 5D3 is much quieter than that.

Put the volume down when you play the vid

Seriously, unless someone plays a 5Dmk3 and D810 side by side with some controlled sound recording then it is impossible to say anything about shutter noise.
Who knows how close to the microphone the D810 was? Who know what the amplifier profile was?

An Exception · 28 Jul 2014 at 21:56

An Exception · 29 Jul 2014 at 00:10

Can't really test IQ yet until Adobe properly supports it.
Anyway shot of cat at ISO 6400 and converted to DNG and imported to LR.

Columbo · 29 Jul 2014 at 08:54

That noise performance is astonishing, it looks like ISO 800 on my A77.

Rojin · 29 Jul 2014 at 09:51

Nice. So, what happens when the D810e appears?

How do you find the AF from the D800?

An Exception · 29 Jul 2014 at 10:23

Rojin said:
Nice. So, what happens when the D810e appears?

How do you find the AF from the D800?

Haha, frankly I'm already annoyed the new camera only has an extra 10 and is missing an E.

I haven't done much shooting with them atm, but I would say AF is basically the same speed, however the 810 seems a little more accurate. I'm not sure whether my mind os play tricks on me, but it does seem more 'consistent'.

I have a wedding this weekend but I think I'll still use my field tested E's until adobe fully support the D810 and I'v used it a little more.

An Exception · 29 Jul 2014 at 13:05

Columbo said:
That noise performance is astonishing, it looks like ISO 800 on my A77.

Yes but it's not so bad, as your A77 has IBIS.

Had ago at adding some NR. It may be just me but it seemed to clean up well without losing much detail.
Although I still prefer it with natural grain.

Raymond Lin · 29 Jul 2014 at 13:10

There no "natural grain" in digital

An Exception · 29 Jul 2014 at 13:23

Ha ha.

I always find it ironic that I much prefer the look/colours of film, but have never owned a film camera.

I don't know why more camera makers don't do what Fuji do, and provide camera settings to mimic film sooc.

Raymond Lin · 29 Jul 2014 at 13:29

I guess DSLR is seen more as a professional thing, and the fake grain are in essence an effect. Much like all these filters you can apply in a compact. The pros don't want these, they don't even put in Landscape/Portrait modes in the flagship, and for years some purists rejects the notion of video on their camera.

Fake film grain effects? They would throw a tanturm ! lol

GTRacer · 29 Jul 2014 at 14:14

Fuji's film emulation effects aren't really 'true' emulations like VSCO or Replichrome, they're more like picture profiles (like Canon's Neutral/Faithful/Portrait profiles) that are somewhat based on Fuji's colour emulsions. Grain isn't added either. Provia is their standard, Astia is duller looking and Velvia is saturated. They don't really look much like their film namesakes at all, but they are pretty nice jpegs regardless of that.

Rojin · 29 Jul 2014 at 17:08

Banding and colour noise I don't like, but beyond that I don't mind digital noise at all. It's different to grain but it's not miles apart.

I was on a forum recently and there was a chap shooting ISO6400 on a Fuji because he liked the results so much for street.

Rojin · 29 Jul 2014 at 17:10

Raymond Lin said:
I guess DSLR is seen more as a professional thing, and the fake grain are in essence an effect. Much like all these filters you can apply in a compact. The pros don't want these, they don't even put in Landscape/Portrait modes in the flagship, and for years some purists rejects the notion of video on their camera.

Fake film grain effects? They would throw a tanturm ! lol

In camera yes, but once they get into Lightroom there are plenty who apply film type presets. The likes of DXO, VSCO, Nik etc. do very well out of it I imagine

D.P. · 29 Jul 2014 at 18:32

Rojin said:
Banding and colour noise I don't like, but beyond that I don't mind digital noise at all. It's different to grain but it's not miles apart.

I was on a forum recently and there was a chap shooting ISO6400 on a Fuji because he liked the results so much for street.

Varies a lot by the sensor IMO.

CCD sensors although create more noise it tends to be more grain like. I much preferred the noise of my old D70 with a CCD sensor than the D90 but the D90 was 1.5- 2 stops ahead. Some CMOS sensors tend to produce colour blotches and more visible artifacts while most CCD sensors tend to produce a luminance grain.
At not too extreme ISOs even CMOS sensors make a fairly unobtrusive grain that is more of a texture. I don't bother with noise reduction because it tends just to reduce detail unless done carefully with masking.

Above&Beyond · 29 Jul 2014 at 19:32

The D810 looks like a nice small incremental upgrade from the D800/E but not something I would go for already having a D800. I'll wait until the D900/E or whatever it is called.

ElDude · 29 Jul 2014 at 19:42

I do like that noise on the 6400 shot. Very clean

Cmon Canon, bring out the 5Dmk4, daddy needs new 0% finance options