Nitty Gritty Laura Kuenssberg!

danlightbulb said:
What i meant was is it true its been banned in diving? I dont dispute the origin/use of the symbol.
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Oh, right. Not banned in diving yet, though it probably will be at some point and will definitely be "creatively misinterpreted" whenever a dedicated anti-white racist decides they can gain something by doing so. Why would they care if someone dies as a result?
 
Acme said:
I found this which basically says that the link with slavery is an accusation which has been made in the past, and there is no hard evidence for or against it.

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/nitty-gritty.html
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That's not what the article you link to says.

From that article:

The course's presenters were alleged to have made the link between 'nitty-gritty' and the slave trade. I would guess that, knowing that the phrase was associated with African Americans and that Bristol was associated with the slave trade, they put two and two together and got a conspiracy theory, as is often the way of things today. But perhaps I ought not to guess. That's what the course's presenters did and they guessed wrong.
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Which is explicitly stating that the alleged link is a guess, a conspiracy theory and wrong. Which is true. It's an idea made up from absolutely nothing and which contradicts all available evidence. The idea that the Earth is flat is far better supported despite being as mad as a bag of snakes.

There is no evidence to support the suggestion that 'nitty-gritty' has any connection with slave ships. It probably originated in the USA as an African-American expression, but that's as near as it gets to slavery. It isn't recorded in print until the 1930s, long after slave ships had disappeared, and none of the early references make any link to slavery.
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So we're into the realms of time travel and a national conspiracy of everyone in the USA to suppress The Truth for decades.
 
All I meant was that it doesn't hint at any evidence as to its original meaning, so theres no evidence one way or the other.

Certainly the fact that there is no evidence for should mean nobody makes the accusation in the first place.
 
Acme said:
All I meant was that it doesn't hint at any evidence as to its original meaning, so theres no evidence one way or the other.

Certainly the fact that there is no evidence for should mean nobody makes the accusation in the first place.
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There's no hard evidence that it wasn't made up by time-travelling aliens from long long ago in a galaxy far far away. There's no hard evidence that it's not a reference to Julius Caesar. There's no hard evidence that it's not from an ancient Babylonian recipe for making beer. There's no hard evidence of a vast multitude of highly implausible etymologies someone made up. That doesn't make any of them as plausible as an etymology that matches the meaning of the phrase, links to known facts and isn't something blatantly made up for political purposes and requiring the existence of time travel and a massive conspiracy to cover up the origin for at least 50 years.
 
I do remember her saying that, and a few other broadcasters have too. Whilst I'm not a fan, words, and phases evolve. Their origins have little bearing on the context used today.

there are too many bored people fishing around, stirring things to find what people can next find to be offended by, and it's getting tiresome. These people are just as bad as those they accuse. I want to live my life not offending anyone, but sometimes that won't be possible. We are all different, that's what makes us human. I shouldn't have to be thinking about it tip toeing around people in case I offend them. That makes it more of an issue. IMO
 
The modern purge of words feels biblical in repenting sins. I feel the people who complain about words like nitty gritty once said the n word in public and are traumatised
 
The logical conclusion of removing every offensive word and every word that harks back to an undesirable time is to prevent discussion on those things. Without the language to do it then it will slip from the thoughts of future generations, to the point that people in future will never know that slavery across the world existed.

I would rather we kept the words so that people come to know of historical events when the looked into the origin of them.
 
Has anyone else noticed that when speaking only one side of her lips actually moves?

It’s very strange , every time she’s on the tv I can’t help but notice .
 
Hagar said:
Male and female threads? Makes entire sense and understood by anyone over 10 years old.
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Not one of my guitarists, during the 12 years he never got the male/master - female/slave concept.
I can't count the amount of times I'd hold connectors up and say "This has got little willys and this has got ladies front bottoms" and he never got it.
 
I will tell you what it is. In the 1930's they had a lot of coal ships, colliers, and occasionally they had to send men into the holds to clean the 'nitty gritty' which had built up over several voyages.
Nowadays we do not have much in the way of coal travelling our seaways so some woke idiot mistook collier for slaver and a new urban myth sprang up.
 
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