No Budget...Your top set up for everything.

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:18

al4x said:
I'm actually surprised at the variation of people's choices
Even down to the body format

Same, I can't believe no one else wants a 5DSR !!

413x · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:21

Combat squirrel said:
Same, I can't believe no one else wants a 5DSR !!

I think I'm the only one who has compromised on the standard focal length!

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:24

al4x said:
I think I'm the only one who has compromised on the standard focal length!

May I suggest if you like macro, super zoom and wide, get the 50mp 5DSR cuz all that is going to come a cropper!

(macro crop, super zoom crop if wildlife?!, and landscape/wide/arc/etc ......pixels are nice

- 18mp is meh for that

)

413x · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:30

I'm not really familiar with bodies of that caliber to be fair.
The extra reach its useful on crop especially with wildlife as the cost of 500mm on crop is 2k (sigma 120-300mm + 1.4 tc + 1.6x crop)
The same on the FF is much much much more.

True however that I don't know how having 50mp on FF sensor might allow me to crop in to achieve the same image.

But my 70d was 600 pounds, 5DSR is what.. 3k?

I think a 400mm prime is a dream too far away as it is

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:37

Yeah basically the 5DSR will give you the 'crop reach' which is essentially what a crop is, but with FF goodness, its the best of both, has a stonking AF system similar to 5D3/7D2 as well. 5DSR is basically a 5D3 with a 50mp FF sensor.

As said, this is a no budget thread, so, pfff 3k, no worries

P

An Exception · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:37

Combat squirrel said:
Same, I can't believe no one else wants a 5DSR !!

I haven't kept up to date with DSLR's but 50mp sounds interesting. Unless it's 50 megapixels of the same banding prone sensor as previous models. If that's the case most people are going to be better off with the D810's 7360×4912 pixels Vs the 5DR's 8688×5792 pixels.
Also how does the 5DSR deal with the anti aliasing? Does it use the D800E method or the D810 method..

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:40

An Exception said:
I haven't kept up to date with DSLR's but 50mp sounds interesting. Unless it's 50 megapixels of the same banding prone sensor as previous models. If that's the case most people are going to be better off with the D810's 7360×4912 pixels Vs the 5DR's 8688×5792 pixels.
Also how does the 5DSR deal with the anti aliasing? Does it use the D800E method or the D810 method..

Here you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEjcXd2tsRg

5DS = anti aliasing filter

5DSR = NO anti aliasing filter

413x · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:41

Combat squirrel said:
Yeah basically the 5DSR will give you the 'crop reach' which is essentially what a crop is, but with FF goodness, its the best of both, has a stonking AF system similar to 5D3/7D2 as well. 5DSR is basically a 5D3 with a 50mp FF sensor.

As said, this is a no budget thread, so, pfff 3k, no worries P

Good point. Would be interesting to compare a high pixel density with best crop has to offer.
Like said the FF would have far reaching benefits of it could compete with the best crops

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:44

al4x said:
Good point. Would be interesting to compare a high pixel density with best crop has to offer.
Like said the FF would have far reaching benefits of it could compete with the best crops

It has 'crop modes' built in already - it can 1.6 crop (19mp) and 1.3 crop. but you may as well shoot in FF mode and crop in post if you wanted.

Dual Digic 6 processors as well, its really aimed at commercial photographers etc , high end wedding etc, but its so flexible IMO. ISO performance remains to be seen.

50mp Test shot here:

http://canon-premium.webcdn.stream.ne.jp/www09/canon-premium/eosd/samples/eos5dsr/downloads/03.jpg

More test shots:

https://cdn.photographylife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Canon-5DS-Image-Samples-1.jpg

http://canon-premium.webcdn.stream.ne.jp/www09/canon-premium/eosd/samples/eos5dsr/downloads/01.jpg

To my eyes they look:

An Exception · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:47

Raymond, does the 5DSR interest you?

Raymond Lin · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:48

An Exception said:
Raymond, does the 5DSR interest you?

Nope, I want the Sony sensor, which that doesn't have.

Combat squirrel · 10 Mar 2015 at 23:52

Raymond Lin said:
Nope, I want the Sony sensor, which that doesn't have.

After the dynamic range/iso performance?

What MP sensors you have your eyes on ?

An Exception · 11 Mar 2015 at 00:00

Combat squirrel said:
After the dynamic range/iso performance?

What MP sensors you have your eyes on ?

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But in all seriousness RL does just fine with his current setup regardless, so doubt he has much motivation to upgrade.
A 50mp Sony based 5DSR would have been tempting though I'm sure.

GTRacer · 11 Mar 2015 at 00:12

Speaking of the 5DS, Canon had these mugs at their lounge during LFW. Made me chuckle:

And I believe that the dynamic range of the 5DS is the same as the 7D2, so slightly better than the 5D3, but still nowhere near the Sony sensors.

An Exception · 11 Mar 2015 at 00:21

If I was a marketing guy, this would have been my counter..

An Exception · 11 Mar 2015 at 00:29

GTRacer said:
And I believe that the dynamic range of the 5DS is the same as the 7D2, so slightly better than the 5D3, but still nowhere near the Sony sensors.

I don't think it's even the actual dynamic range (clipped shadows/highlights) that people moan about. It's just the label the non technical folk have attributed to causing banding. The banding itself isn't caused by a lack of dynamic range, just noisy data read out. The sensor and ADC has a high noise floor in comparison to the sony sensor.

Rojin · 11 Mar 2015 at 10:51

Isn't the ISO on the new Canon high res bodies maxed at 6400? These look like studio/landscape focused cameras to me, neither of which interest me. The 5D4 should bring things back on track for high ISO.

Rojin · 11 Mar 2015 at 10:52

An Exception said:
I don't think it's even the actual dynamic range (clipped shadows/highlights) that people moan about. It's just the label the non technical folk have attributed to causing banding. The banding itself isn't caused by a lack of dynamic range, just noisy data read out. The sensor and ADC has a high noise floor in comparison to the sony sensor.

Yeah, some bloke with far too much time on his hands reckons the 7D sensor has amazing capabilities, but it all goes to pot in the processing chain.

An Exception · 11 Mar 2015 at 10:59

TeamSpeed?

An Exception · 11 Mar 2015 at 11:06

Rojin said:
Isn't the ISO on the new Canon high res bodies maxed at 6400? These look like studio/landscape focused cameras to me, neither of which interest me. The 5D4 should bring things back on track for high ISO.

It depends really. Extended 12800 of 5DSR could be just as clean as native 12800 on the D810. Personally I would say that 12800 on the D810 should be classed as Extended as you are pretty much in black and white only territory in a tungsten environment.