No DSS!

Can’t you be specific and say you’ll accept people on housing benefit who are also on a disability benefit?

If I said that wouldn't I be discriminating? I'm not certain about what to do TBH. I'll listen to the advice that the letting agent will give me on what to do then make a decision. If push comes to shove I'll sell the place & buy a 1 bedroom flat as that is my long term plan anyway.
 
Seeing this thread has got me thinking. I'm in the process of looking for a new tenant soon after my current tenant gave me notice three weeks ago. I dont want to instruct the letting agent to say 'no dss' as some 'dss' people are genuine & claim for health disability reasons. I will probably get a working tenant mainly because of where the property is. All I care about is that the tenant pays the rent on time, that they respect my property & contents & Anti-social behaviour isn't their hobby.

If you’re near London then perhaps a 5 days per week rental agreement could be the one to go for as they’d need to have another home elsewhere.
 
I appreciate people get attached to areas, and unfamiliar areas can be worrying, but as long as your personal/medical needs are met, it shouldn't make any difference where in the country you live.

As a Guess (And this is not a criticism, just an observation)

I would expect you to be a "Remainer" (Or at least, not a particularly strong "Brexiter" )

Am i right?

:p
 
I've missed it too apparently, as I also came to the same conclusion he did.
Well, one of the main differences between disabled and non disabled is the fact that barring very generous relatives or a huge lottery win, housing benefit is the only real option for housing available to those too disabled to work. Non disabled people can work, but many choose not to, they treat the dole as a lifestyle choice. On that fact alone, I would class them undesirable to have as tenants.

Obviously, there may be cases of non desirable disabled people, but on the whole, when it comes to parties, loud music, trashing the place, unpaid rent and general ASB, you’re far more likely to get problems from healthy individuals, those who choose the dole as a lifestyle choice.

And no, I don’t think it’s discriminatory to separate disabled people from non disabled. The former have no choice in many aspects of their lives, the latter do, but sadly, too many are too lazy to get off their arses and do anything about their situation.
 
Well, one of the main differences between disabled and non disabled is the fact that barring very generous relatives or a huge lottery win, housing benefit is the only real option for housing available to those too disabled to work. Non disabled people can work, but many choose not to, they treat the dole as a lifestyle choice. On that fact alone, I would class them undesirable to have as tenants.

Obviously, there may be cases of non desirable disabled people, but on the whole, when it comes to parties, loud music, trashing the place, unpaid rent and general ASB, you’re far more likely to get problems from healthy individuals, those who choose the dole as a lifestyle choice.

And no, I don’t think it’s discriminatory to separate disabled people from non disabled. The former have no choice in many aspects of their lives, the latter do, but sadly, too many are too lazy to get off their arses and do anything about their situation.

Fair points, can't argue with that. I've specifically avoided posting in this thread because my opinions would probably be seen as inhumane but they're fairly consistent with yours.
 

"Sigh" indeed. Dont take it so personally!

As I said, Not a criticism, Just an observation.

There is clearly a psychological difference between remainers and brexiters.

And I would expect that somebody who takes a pragmatic, logical even, attitude about where they live to be more likely to do so in the EU membership debate too.

I acknowledge that the "Brexit" case is mainly emotional. That does not mean that it is "Wrong" but it does mean that the, perhaps more "Rational", remainers find it hard to comprehend.

In much the same way as the idea of being emotionally attached to a particular place might trump the "economic" advantages of moving to live somewhere else might also be difficult for people not so tied to understand...
 
"Sigh" indeed. Dont take it so personally!

As I said, Not a criticism, Just an observation.

There is clearly a psychological difference between remainers and brexiters.

And I would expect that somebody who takes a pragmatic, logical even, attitude about where they live to be more likely to do so in the EU membership debate too.

I acknowledge that the "Brexit" case is mainly emotional. That does not mean that it is "Wrong" but it does mean that the, perhaps more "Rational", remainers find it hard to comprehend.

In much the same way as the idea of being emotionally attached to a particular place might trump the "economic" advantages of moving to live somewhere else might also be difficult for people not so tied to understand...

You're missing the point:

What the **** has this got to do with brexit?
 
This is the problem with the government selling off the housing stock to private landlords. Now the whole issue moves in to the private sector which has by definition less obligation to house people.

It would be good if the government set up a system so those who rent or rent out can look up the history. Similar to sites like Ebay were both seller and buyer can leave feedback which gives them both reputation status.
 
If you’re near London then perhaps a 5 days per week rental agreement could be the one to go for as they’d need to have another home elsewhere.

I live near London (34 miles) but the property is not. Living there would mean a 180 mile round trip to work daily & I drive 700 miles a week for work as it is (I would have to leave at 2am & I'd be home 5pm most weekdays. Travel/Fuel cost would increase 1700%/2000% ish ). Jobs where the property is located are around minimum wage & I would find re-employment in that part of the country quite hard as I'm now in my early to mid fifties. The interior of the property is in need of renovation & I've given serious thought about packing my job in order to do most of that myself. The hard part would be to get back into a similar job once that's finished & I've got tenants back in & I've moved back.
 
Guys as a landlord of three BTL I can tell you now as the law says no one is going to tell me who can and can’t live in my properties.

I naively rented one to a DSS tennant whos child decided to ruin all the walls with Crayons , make holes everywhere and was just a compete scumbag that I subsequently had to evict with Bailiffs as the local authority would not rehome until I did , cost me thousands. Lessons learned .

Affordability is now my main criteria , along with tenant referencing done with my local agents I also ask for the last three months bank statements. I now never have issues .

Shelter and the qualities commissions didn’t want to help me with my nightmare tennant so bum holes to them .

Local authorities can only push private landlords so much , along with the demonisation from the government ( massive tax hikes ) you might just find there might not be many of us left in the long term.
 
Completely agree. Would never let out to DSS unless things drastically changed and payments would go directly to the landlord. Why should they risk their property.
 
Guys as a landlord of three BTL I can tell you now as the law says no one is going to tell me who can and can’t live in my properties.

I naively rented one to a DSS tennant whos child decided to ruin all the walls with Crayons , make holes everywhere and was just a compete scumbag that I subsequently had to evict with Bailiffs as the local authority would not rehome until I did , cost me thousands. Lessons learned .

Affordability is now my main criteria , along with tenant referencing done with my local agents I also ask for the last three months bank statements. I now never have issues .

Shelter and the qualities commissions didn’t want to help me with my nightmare tennant so bum holes to them .

Local authorities can only push private landlords so much , along with the demonisation from the government ( massive tax hikes ) you might just find there might not be many of us left in the long term.
Would you make any exceptions for disabled people, or would you just tar them with the same brush?
 
Guys as a landlord of three BTL I can tell you now as the law says no one is going to tell me who can and can’t live in my properties.

I naively rented one to a DSS tennant whos child decided to ruin all the walls with Crayons , make holes everywhere and was just a compete scumbag that I subsequently had to evict with Bailiffs as the local authority would not rehome until I did , cost me thousands. Lessons learned .

Affordability is now my main criteria , along with tenant referencing done with my local agents I also ask for the last three months bank statements. I now never have issues .

Shelter and the qualities commissions didn’t want to help me with my nightmare tennant so bum holes to them .

Local authorities can only push private landlords so much , along with the demonisation from the government ( massive tax hikes ) you might just find there might not be many of us left in the long term.

You are everything wrong with the housing market.
 
Would you make any exceptions for disabled people, or would you just tar them with the same brush?

Surely that would be covered by the tenant referencing and bank statements?

The way he says it cost him thousands mean I assume they were not paying for it either.

You're trying to make this personal. In reality genuine disabled and claiming benefits are probably not the problem, its the cant work wont work and get everything for free types hes trying to avoid.

As would I.
 
Would you make any exceptions for disabled people, or would you just tar them with the same brush?


I don’t care if there disabled , white , black , three heads or come from the planet zogg .

These people are living in my hard earned pensions and I will protect them as I see fit .

How can I put this - It’s a bit like the fund manager of a pension fund saying to all its investors that the ethical thing to do is to invest your money in a fund to help the long term unemployed but your likely to lose all of your money . What do you think will happen ?

I pay my taxes and N.I for the people who have fallen on hard times or for the state to look after disabled people and I don’t begrudge a penny . What I do be begrudge is the low life wingers and scrounges of this world who haven’t done a hard days work and moan at others . Get off your backsides and get a bloody job .
 
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