Their DNS servers have been terrible for a couple of years now, i have been using the google free DNS since then
No Fibre from Be this year
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Their DNS servers have been terrible for a couple of years now, i have been using the google free DNS since then
I dont think its a case of RIP BE,
They have been a fantastic ISP, granted not as much lately due to a few niggles, however, in terms of performance of an LLU service second to none, and although I am paying discount rate of £12 per month for Unlimited, I can't complain.
However saying that, they are going to now have some stiff competition as the marketing frenzy of "Fibre" takes away some customers.
I have been with a few ISP's and BE's has been the best by far, and they have stuck to their guns with their packaging terms, no caps, no throttling.
I am just a bit sad that BT seem the be the reccomended choice for FTTC, I am really not liking the idea of signing up for an 18 month contract, when they could whip in a cap and throttling down the line, I am looking at Sky which go live tomorrow, the more smaller ISP's generally have higher prices and smaller bandwidth allocation.
They have been a fantastic ISP, granted not as much lately due to a few niggles, however, in terms of performance of an LLU service second to none, and although I am paying discount rate of £12 per month for Unlimited, I can't complain.
However saying that, they are going to now have some stiff competition as the marketing frenzy of "Fibre" takes away some customers.
I have been with a few ISP's and BE's has been the best by far, and they have stuck to their guns with their packaging terms, no caps, no throttling.
I am just a bit sad that BT seem the be the reccomended choice for FTTC, I am really not liking the idea of signing up for an 18 month contract, when they could whip in a cap and throttling down the line, I am looking at Sky which go live tomorrow, the more smaller ISP's generally have higher prices and smaller bandwidth allocation.
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I've used Be for ages, but I'm concerned they'll lose customers - and therefore funding - for the fibre project, so I think this really is RIP BE.
Will be great once it takes off, but it took a couple years to really get BE off the ground - unlike their Swedish "dig your own ditch" solution which exploded in less than a year
Outside of London/Bournemouth/Dundee the closest most of us are going to get to fiber links are BT/Virgin sadly.
Really which the uni didn't cap students at 10meg too, staff get 350-400
Spring 2013, anyone with FTTC will be allowed to get FTTP On-demand.
One would hope when the last mile is fiber, this company will only need network exchanges, building a not unlike they did with Be. With any luck, a couple of years will see us all getting these sorts of packages if it's sustainable.
We'll see how it turns out.
DJMK4: It is still 266 days to 1st Jan 2013, & even by that date I doubt Be will have any fibre up & running by then.
As more areas are enable with Infinity, you will see more customers leaving Be.
I myself had been with Be nearly 7 years, but I had problems with speed, dropped connections, etc, I decided to jump ship early last year to Infinity, which was the best move I made.
As more areas are enable with Infinity, you will see more customers leaving Be.
I myself had been with Be nearly 7 years, but I had problems with speed, dropped connections, etc, I decided to jump ship early last year to Infinity, which was the best move I made.
Have you noticed any 'throttling' of any sorts since making the change?
I am quite worried about going with infinity, despite what people are saying about them being excellent, I have never been fond of them as an ISP, I do like the new promo they have, however, what happens if they start throttling and capping, your lodged in to an 18 month contract? also no options of a static IP?
Lol, just noticed on BT's page they have already change "Unlimited Usage" to "Unlimited Usage - Exclusions Apply" didnt take long, wonder what changes they will make to this rule during peoples 18 month contracts.
Lol, just noticed on BT's page they have already change "Unlimited Usage" to "Unlimited Usage - Exclusions Apply" didnt take long, wonder what changes they will make to this rule during peoples 18 month contracts.
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am i dreaming but did i just read this in another thread ??
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Firstly their contract doesn't have throttling/usage caps at the moment on, as I understand it, anything but torrents. Considering torrents suck balls, big whoop.
I've downloaded, god knows how much in a couple weeks, got to be pushing half a terrabyte, no slow down, no problems, no traffic shaping. There is no real reason to think BT would introduce heavy caps, after all, they make a profit when you use their service, if people stop using it and move away where's the profit. Be could have introduced usage caps, or Sky, and BT could have done it long long before now, so why haven't they? Because plenty of people are happy to pay more for more usage, and that means all those companies make more money.
As for expecting a crappy £70 router to be any good, its funny. My netgear router was solid for years before it, well, died. The BT router has no problem providing 4 times the throughput, stronger/more stable wireless and a stronger more stable connection. The only problem I've had was with the Be router, and the disconnections had nothing to do with my wiring, it wasn't a problem before the Be router for the past 15 years, and its not a problem now, it was a problem with the Be router, nothing more or less.
It's an overheating mess , the hardware inside is probably very standard, the poor case, the woeful cooling vents(vents ONLY on the bottom.... stupidly retarded) aren't standard, I'm surprised any of them last long at all.
DNS server wise I was already using alternatives, as their own DNS servers were almost completely useless but the number of times in the past 2 years that I couldn't even establish a connection to a DNS server because something was wrong Be side was becoming, not terrible, but happened enough to notice it while for years before that it basically never happened.
I've downloaded, god knows how much in a couple weeks, got to be pushing half a terrabyte, no slow down, no problems, no traffic shaping. There is no real reason to think BT would introduce heavy caps, after all, they make a profit when you use their service, if people stop using it and move away where's the profit. Be could have introduced usage caps, or Sky, and BT could have done it long long before now, so why haven't they? Because plenty of people are happy to pay more for more usage, and that means all those companies make more money.
As for expecting a crappy £70 router to be any good, its funny. My netgear router was solid for years before it, well, died. The BT router has no problem providing 4 times the throughput, stronger/more stable wireless and a stronger more stable connection. The only problem I've had was with the Be router, and the disconnections had nothing to do with my wiring, it wasn't a problem before the Be router for the past 15 years, and its not a problem now, it was a problem with the Be router, nothing more or less.
It's an overheating mess , the hardware inside is probably very standard, the poor case, the woeful cooling vents(vents ONLY on the bottom.... stupidly retarded) aren't standard, I'm surprised any of them last long at all.
DNS server wise I was already using alternatives, as their own DNS servers were almost completely useless but the number of times in the past 2 years that I couldn't even establish a connection to a DNS server because something was wrong Be side was becoming, not terrible, but happened enough to notice it while for years before that it basically never happened.
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Good post and agree totally a lot of people are so quick to **** B.T off but remember without there Network no one would be using Broadband as you say the Be Modem/Router is total pants ! and the DNS servers are as much use as a Pushbike in F1 ha! If you read the papers you will see that B.T are doing the fastest upgrade in the world of any service thats a fact ! remember the oldest companies are always the best
a lot of people are so quick to **** B.T off but remember without there Network no one would be using Broadband as you say the Be Modem/Router is total pants ! and the DNS servers are as much use as a Pushbike in F1 ha! If you read the papers you will see that B.T are doing the fastest upgrade in the world of any service thats a fact ! remember the oldest companies are always the best 
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Good post and agree totally
I don't regard Be or BT as perfect but posts such as yours, which are filled with bias and empty of technical fact, could potentially mislead anybody looking for advice on here. Please try to focus more on facts in future :/
oh okay i stand corrected ! heres a fact ....if your not tecnical why would you say something you don,t know about ? as for being Bias i don,t see whats wrong with that ! if you support a team then you don,t praise up the other teams
alittle bit of advice maybe your not always right or make mistakes never judge a book by its cover
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oh okay i stand corrected ! heres a fact ....if your not tecnical why would you say something you don,t know about ? as for being Bias i don,t see whats wrong with that ! if you support a team then you don,t praise up the other teams
The problem with bias is that people may mistake your advice for good advice rather than bad.
If you look up the definition of bias you'll see that it is almost always a "bad thing"
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bias
This isn't football; it's a forum where people come for technical advice regarding what broadband supplier will work best for them.
remember the oldest companies are always the best
Ha, you would laugh silly at this comment if its aimed at BT, if you work for an ISP themselves and see the "Real BT" when you have to deal with Wholesale BT.
It's quite possible but you shouldn't expect a premium service, considering how cheap it is. I remember when BT went from offering unlimited & unshaped to a service with FUP and serious traffic shaping during peak time. HTTP was often limited to 100KB/s.
Just ignore jamjar, he never posts anything worthwhile in the networking section.
The problem is everyone has this misconception of BT being **** from their ADSL days. Many ISP's were poor at ADSL and there are bad reviews for all ISP's. BT's VDSL service is completely different, much much better than their ADSL.
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Just called to get my MAC code, the guy was really nice 
sad to leave, but I cant turn down 80Mb down, 20Mb up for £20 per month!
sad to leave, but I cant turn down 80Mb down, 20Mb up for £20 per month!