No more btjunkie :-(

Xepisodes has shut down too. I stopped using Torrents/Newsgroups a few years ago because it's easier just to stream everything now.
 
Netflix has got the right idea. Why pirate stuff when Netflix is cheap, easy and legal?

Because not everything is show by streaming company's, nor is everything available on DVD/Bluray.

If EVERYTHING was readily available then there would be no need for it, but as it stands there is no single company that has a library of content complete enough yet.
 
I came into this thread fully expecting the forum member btjunkie to be dead. Then reading the op I briefly believed it was some sort of loving eulogy about turning off his life support before my brain actually registered what I was reading. :mad:

Should point out that I'm not actually mad despite what the emoticon suggests, obviously its a good thing no one has died and its just some retro pirating service going down the toilet instead.

Edit - it would seem there isn't even a member called btjunkie... Who the hell am I thinking of then?

i swear to god there was! i was thinking the same before i started reading OP

gt_junkie is alive and well!
 
Netflix has got the right idea. Why pirate stuff when Netflix is cheap, easy and legal?

My connection is nowhere near good enough to stream HD video. Also Netflix seems to be in need of an improved library.

When I get a good enough internet connection and Netflix or similar have a better library I will definitely sign up. Digital distribution is the way forwards imo, I am a big user of Steam.

Also a shame you can't preload or download stuff from Netflix (I assume, anyway?) - even with a decent connection I would prefer to keep a local copy of the content in case of being without a net connection for a while or my connection is doing something else.
 
Noooooooooooo! Where will I get my materials now!



*logs into nzbmatrix*





If Netflix gets a vast database (in HD) as opposed to the little girl's tea party of a library they have now in the UK then I will be interested.

Until then, everything goes via iPlayer HD or NZB.
 
I came into this thread fully expecting the forum member btjunkie to be dead. Then reading the op I briefly believed it was some sort of loving eulogy about turning off his life support before my brain actually registered what I was reading. :mad:

Should point out that I'm not actually mad despite what the emoticon suggests, obviously its a good thing no one has died and its just some retro pirating service going down the toilet instead.

Edit - it would seem there isn't even a member called btjunkie... Who the hell am I thinking of then?

2005 - 2012 young forum member eh? :p
 
Can' be having the PQ with Netflix. I can't for the life of me see how people say it's HD. It's nowhere near a good x264 rip.

Give me a service with the latest films, true HD quality and surround sound at a decent price and I will happily give up newsgroups.

I'm not going to single you out, but your post does demonstrate a prevailing attitude towards digital goods:

"Give me a perfect service or I'll pirate."

It's a very different attitude from other physical services where we *have* to pay, even if the service isn't as good as we'd like.

You can't, for instance, refuse to pay a restaurant bill if you weren't entirely happy with your steak.

Nor can you refuse to pay your broadband provider if the service dropped out for a few hours one day.

But with digital goods, a large number of people have said, and continue to say "unless you meet our demands 100% we will pirate, because piracy meets our demands better."

And at no point do you, or the people who agree, consider that this stance is wrong.
 
What do you expect? People who are paying for Netflix and are happy with standard definition are all good and fine but Those of us with high resolution displays would rather pay for a service and get given content that can make use of our hardware.

If iPlayer can do it at no additional cost then so can Netflix, if they won't well that's tough cheese.
 
What do you expect? People who are paying for Netflix and are happy with standard definition are all good and fine but Those of us with high resolution displays would rather pay for a service and get given content that can make use of our hardware.

If iPlayer can do it at no additional cost then so can Netflix, if they won't well that's tough cheese.

Yes but that doesn't give anyone the moral right to just take it for free. It's just an excuse. An excuse used to justify a crime that is committed by millions because it has no repercussions.

You can, after all, rent Blu-Rays by post if you want to stay inside the law. Let's face it, there is simply a choice being made to take something for free, because you can get away with it.
 
Post.

In this day and age who wants to wait up to 2 days for a BRD to arrive?

Hardly anyone.

It's late but Netflix coming to the UK is a good move but they need to work fast in order to gain traction especially with high quality content.
 
I'm not going to single you out, but your post does demonstrate a prevailing attitude towards digital goods:

"Give me a perfect service or I'll pirate."

It's a very different attitude from other physical services where we *have* to pay, even if the service isn't as good as we'd like.

You can't, for instance, refuse to pay a restaurant bill if you weren't entirely happy with your steak.

Nor can you refuse to pay your broadband provider if the service dropped out for a few hours one day.

But with digital goods, a large number of people have said, and continue to say "unless you meet our demands 100% we will pirate, because piracy meets our demands better."

And at no point do you, or the people who agree, consider that this stance is wrong.

I don't think that's an entirely fair argument. If the pirates can do it then the people who actually own the content should be able to as well. It's not like people are asking them to do something which is impossible.

Let me put it to you another way. If Steam games could only be played in 1024 * 768 resolution and you had a nice 1080p screen, would you still buy games from Steam? Didn't think so.

The people who produce the content not being able to compete on service with people who offer the content for free is the reason a lot of people still pirate. If they focused on actually outdoing the pirates rather than complaining about them then they would convert a lot of people to their way of thinking.

It's all about offering the right product at the right price. Subscription model digital services are the way of the future, I still think that, I just think they have some way to go.
 
I would happily pay £30, £40, £50 a month for unlimited ondemand access to whatever television show I wanted to watch, whenever I wanted to watch it.

This service does not appear to exist.
 
I don't think that's an entirely fair argument. If the pirates can do it then the people who actually own the content should be able to as well. It's not like people are asking them to do something which is impossible.

Let me put it to you another way. If Steam games could only be played in 1024 * 768 resolution and you had a nice 1080p screen, would you still buy games from Steam? Didn't think so.

The people who produce the content not being able to compete on service with people who offer the content for free is the reason a lot of people still pirate. If they focused on actually outdoing the pirates rather than complaining about them then they would convert a lot of people to their way of thinking.

It's all about offering the right product at the right price. Subscription model digital services are the way of the future, I still think that, I just think they have some way to go.

Even if NetFlix only supplies SD, you can still buy or rent BluRay.

It's not just about quality. Pirates want:

1) best quality
2) to keep the product forever (not a rental)
3) prices comparable to a basic no-frills rental service (ie, cost of usenet sub)
4) everything on demand immediately on release + instant delivery

Today, providers can supply some of those depending on which service you're talking about. Do you think you could make a viable business model by checking all of those boxes?
 
1) best quality
2) to keep the product forever (not a rental)
3) prices comparable to a basic no-frills rental service (ie, cost of usenet sub)
4) everything on demand immediately on release + instant delivery

Pirates don't want this alone, anyone with a decent internet connection wants this. What kind of connection do you have? You'd understand the point some are trying to make if you had a 50Mb line and sat there looking at Netflix with SD content.

Number 2 is a moot point because number 4 supersedes it. If one's connection is good enough to stream h.264 or html5 video @ 1080p then that content is always available to them 24/7 anyway so there's no need to have a copy downloaded and there's no need to concern ones self about the hard diskspace being consumed.
 
In response to FoxEye:

And I'd say at least some of them would be willing to pay a good (fair) price for a service that ticked all those boxes. Obviously kids etc who don't work will continue to pirate and not care and even if a good alternative that cost money arose, they would still avoid paying for it. But people who got offered a good service would pay for it.

Why do you think people pay for newsgroups? They obviously feel it is worth the premium and hence pay the money for the service.
 
I can see newsgroups being targetted eventually.

This was a voluntary shutdown, they weren't forced, everybody is just crapping their pants.
 
Steam is a perfect example that shows the platform is important. Hardly any people pirate games and music thanks to spotify. Most people I know who pirate are just in it for tv shows and films, including me.
 
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