Nokia to use Windows OS

Oh dear bad decision. Very bad. Why two under performing dogs in the mobile market place think together they can make a difference is beyond me.

They should have done a deal with HP/Palm and used WebOS... now THAT would have been a move of brilliance. Bring WebOS to the masses.
 
manveruppd said:
Nowhere, I just browse tech sites a lot... :o

PS. Holy crap their stock opened EVEN FURTHER DOWN today! :eek:
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NOK

I was just making angry-internet-man talk earlier but there may well BE a shareholder rebellion brewing!
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Nokias stock price has increased by well over the todays drop in recent months on the back of rumours of todays announcement. In fact the stock price is still 10% higher than 6 months ago.

The drop is primarily down to speculator dumping stock they bought 3 months ago so as to grab the profit and run rather than a reflection on Nokias future.

There's plenty trying to paint the price as something it's not in the media.

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To be fair some sites have looked beyond the headlines..

Nokia’s shares have tumbled 7.25% on news of the Microsoft partnership, which will see Nokia sunsetting Symbian as a “franchise” operating system, and adopting Windows phone 7 as its primary smartphone OS. Of course the shares had risen 27% since November, when these rumours first started, so the small correction may just be profiteering by speculators.
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JBod said:
Oh dear bad decision. Very bad. Why two under performing dogs in the mobile market place think together they can make a difference is beyond me.

They should have done a deal with HP/Palm and used WebOS... now THAT would have been a move of brilliance. Bring WebOS to the masses.
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Yeah, because WebOS has been such a success... Anyone seen Palm round here lately? :rolleyes:
 
Athanor said:
Yeah, because WebOS has been such a success... Anyone seen Palm round here lately? :rolleyes:
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That is the point, the hardware was absolutely terrible. But WebOS is so much better than iOS and Android, would have been a perfect match.
 
Time to buy nokia shares then? This is looking rather good imo, MS won't let this be a bad thing tbh, so expecting good things.
 
JBod said:
That is the point, the hardware was absolutely terrible. But WebOS is so much better than iOS and Android, would have been a perfect match.
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Just ironic you label Nokia and WP7 as "two under performing dogs in the mobile market place" given the history of dismal failure from Palm and WebOS. :D

Pot... Kettle...
 
Athanor said:
Just ironic you label Nokia and WP7 as "two under performing dogs in the mobile market place" given the history of dismal failure from Palm and WebOS. :D

Pot... Kettle...
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I was aware of the irony when I wrote it. Difference is that WP7 is still rubbish :p

We have various handsets at work for the developers and having played with WP7 its really REALLY horrible.

The Blackberry Playbook we got however... now that is pretty awesome.
 
Athanor said:
Nokias stock price has increased by well over the todays drop in recent months on the back of rumours of todays announcement. In fact the stock price is still 10% higher than 6 months ago.

The drop is primarily down to speculator dumping stock they bought 3 months ago so as to grab the profit and run rather than a reflection on Nokias future.
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Might be... depends on whether they'll keep falling won't it?

EDIT: The Register on why this'll impact Nokia's profit margins negatively.
 
Morba said:
Time to buy nokia shares then? This is looking rather good imo, MS won't let this be a bad thing tbh, so expecting good things.
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I wouldn't, the last two mobile companies to announce such a close tie in with MS were Sendo and Palm, where are they now? MS has a nasty history of screwing over it's partners in this arena.
 
On the flip side HTC went from nothing in 1997 to one of the biggest mobile phone manuafacturers worldwide based primarily on it's partnership with Microsoft.
 
Athanor said:
On the flip side HTC went from nothing in 1997 to one of the biggest mobile phone manuafacturers worldwide based primarily on it's partnership with Microsoft.
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Interesting actually that HTC diversified into Android handsets as soon as they possibly could, and declined/refused to use the last versions of Windows Mobile 6.5.x that MS released due to their allegedly soured relationship.
 
bam0 said:
Interesting actually that HTC diversified into Android handsets as soon as they possibly could, and declined/refused to use the last versions of Windows Mobile 6.5.x that MS released due to their allegedly soured relationship.
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That doesn't make sense as the biggest launch partner with the vast majority of launch WP7 devices were HTC. Hardly the sign of "a soured relationship" although maybe wishful thinking from Google.

With finite engineering resources HTC didn't spend any time on new WM6.5.x devices as they concentrated on multiple (HTC HD7, Mozart, Trophy and Pro ) WP7 devices for launch which at that point was only 6 months or so away.

People genuinely under estimate WP7, usually not having used it for any length of time and generaly based on blind dislike of MS or the later years of WM (people tend to forget Windows Mobile devices were amongst the earliest and most successful of smartphones for a long time before MS lost focus on it).

Unsurprisingly I use a WP7 device and really like it. Android is a great OS for enthusiasts who want to tinker and have the latest ROM. Having said that, the vast majoirty of people in my experience just want something that works (which I guess is one of the reasons why iPhone was so successful). I honestly am yet to meet someone who having used WP7 with their own data and apps on it really doesn't like it. Some might prefer the freedom of Andriod, some might prefer the investment they have in iOS apps and iTunes music etc, but to call WP7 a bad mobile OS is to grossly underestimate it.
 
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you must say the rise of HTC is nothing short of incredible. They have done it by producing hardware that people desire. Good quality and foward thinking design.

kinda like nokia until about 2006

i thought MeeGo was looking very nifty but oh well. Do you think Intel will pick this up on there own now or try to get another handset maker in?
 
My money is on Intel pushing Meego as a tablet/slate/small form factor embedded utility type OS now.

It had a huge amount of promise but was just too late to market.
 
Anything has to be better than Symbian, but this still wouldn't make me buy a Nokia Smart phone.

I think Microsoft services are pretty poor in comparison to Google's, I'm currently in the process of moving all my internet registration details from Hotmail to Gmail because of how poor Hotmail is.

Don't even get me started on Windows Live 2011, who ever decided to take Windows Live in the direction it has gone, deserves to be shot.

It's a shame GTalk never took off, else I would quite happily get rid of Windows Live.
 
WP7 Internet browser is horrible compared to the stock browser on Android. Poor Text formatting spring to mind - Android renders fast and desktop like pages no problem with additional menu features which are intuitive. There are loads things WP7 I found unintuitive
 
^ yep still waiting for that patch to make IE competitive.

Don't worry about Intel, they have fingers many pies (Android and webOS?) They just need a decent SoC.
 
It seems a lot of people are writing off this as a failure before it has really even started, like any new OS WP7 needs time to evolve and Nokia is the ideal company for MS to push this forward with.

People should try and understand that a common user experience is a big deal for a lot of average users, they want to be able to go from handset to handset with out feeling like they need to re-learn a whole new environment to work in. Nokia offered this for a long time, as does Apple now, Google on the other hand does not have this yet and such go from an HTC device to say a Samsung device or a Sony device can lead to a completely different end user experience which is not ideal for the broader market place and for application development.

I'd probably say that we'll see a handset in less than six months time, just in time for the Iphone 5 and the next big Google update.

Which ever way it goes this can only be a good thing for competition and therefore consumer choice and price going forward. :)
 
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