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immortalcloud

immortalcloud

immortalcloud

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Hi,

is this normal?

I have bought a new hard drive today so i can put all my pics i have on numerous discs onto that drive. Well , i have 1.8gb to transfer and its absolutely making my pc crawl. It says it has 3hr 45min left to transfer all that.

Spec of my pc is intel i5 750 @4ghz, 4gb 1600ram and 2x samsung f3 spinpoint 1tb 32mb cache.

Matt
 
Sounds like something's wrong there.
Assuming you are copying the photos from one SATA connected F3 to another, and are right that it's 1.8GB I'm surprised it took more than 30 seconds.

Try using teracopy.
 
Right ive tried to copy them again and it seems that its the folder that has pics and movies in the same folder (movies are only a few seconds each so not big files) Its this folder that drags a lot more than the others. Why could that be?
 
Most HDDs have poor access times and are comparably poor at transfering many small files vs. few large files. I think ;)
 
PCM2 is correct. If you have a 9ms average seek time then for each file you have 9ms to locate the empty space to put the file then another 9ms to locate the filesystem information and update it. This assumes no fragmentation.
So for every 1000 files, you lose 18 seconds just in seek times.
It does still sound a bit slow, unless there are many thousands of files.
What speed is the DVD drive rated at? 1x is 1.32MB/s
If you can tell us how many files there are in total and time how long it actually takes we can make more sense of it.
Make sure the drive isn't in PIO mode.....
 
Right...

Its about 4gb of data spread over a few folders. When i try to copy from disc and paste to the drive it does it but then everything else rags to the point that if i click on internet explorer it takes at least a minute to open and then drags like hell whilst using windows.

Its a quad core cpu, 4gb 1600hz ram this shouldnt be so slow doing this?
 
Hi,

If i go to device manager and click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controlers it brings up ATA channel 0, ATA channel 0, ATA channel 1 and ATA channel 1

If i go to the last ata channel 1 and click properties i get this...

dvdg.png


Is it right that 2 things are sharing this?

Matt
 
Your setup looks fine, tho not ideal if that's the 2 drives you're transferring between.
If you select all the files/folders on the DVD and right-click and go to properties, it'll tell you how many files there are, could you post this?
It just occured to me that the DVD drive will have a seek time too (obvious really, but there you go!) A quick google suggests it could be rather high (88 to 178ms!)
If the files aren't coming off the DVD in the order they were written, this could be what's slowing it down. 36000 DVD seeks would take an hour (100ms).
 
weird_dave said:
Your setup looks fine, tho not ideal if that's the 2 drives you're transferring between.
If you select all the files/folders on the DVD and right-click and go to properties, it'll tell you how many files there are, could you post this?
It just occured to me that the DVD drive will have a seek time too (obvious really, but there you go!) A quick google suggests it could be rather high (88 to 178ms!)
If the files aren't coming off the DVD in the order they were written, this could be what's slowing it down. 36000 DVD seeks would take an hour (100ms).
Click to expand...

What other way could i cable it up?? , originally boot hd was on sata 1 , new backup drive was on sata 2 and dvd on sata 3 , and it was as above only it was ata channel 0 that had both on. No its the same apart from the dvd is on sata 4 now as i changed it to see if it made any difference.

Matt
 
Just wanted to say that I bought a new Samsung F3 (two actually) from OC a couple of weeks ago and one was painfully slow.

For me, it was formatting that took an age. At the time, I had only 1 of the new drives plugged in so I swapped them to see if there was any difference. The second drive flew through.

I sent the first one back to OC, which they swapped for me and everything has been fine since.
 
Oops, I forgot they were SATA, I was thinking PATA devices on the same cable....
That wouldn't have been the cause of the problem anyway, your symtoms are far more severe.

Transferring from DVD to HD shouldn't cause your PC to grind to a halt. It will have an impact if you're transferring to the C: drive and try to surf/play etc...
You could try copying from one HD to the other and see if things are better.
Can you hear the DVD head move about a lot?
What speed is the DVD drive?
How many files are there?
Does the CPU go to 100%?
Does the pointer move smoothly on the screen?
 
Your copying from DVD right? and it slows down on lots of small files? I would say it's a dirty disk, a dodgy burn or the DVD drive is struggleing with the large amount of small files.

I've had a CD before copy slow for no reason at all at one point on the CD.

Run a benchmark as suggested, also try and get the DVD spinning at full speed by accessing the stuff on it before starting the transfer.

You could also try copying a handfull of files at a time, say 100.

Once you've got all the files off, burn another DVD. I would put them in a RAR with a recovery record and burn 2 copys.
 
Hi,

Well these are the results of the C drive and my backup drive which is called the E drive...

Looking at this it seems like my main drive is quite a bit slower and that isnt even the drive i was trying to copy to???

hd1.png


hd2e.png


Matt
 
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