Not directly employed

You raised this same question a while back just with different words. Last time if I remember correctly it was because the permy solicitors earn't more than you.

You do not work for that company. What their employees get or do not get is basically none of your business. Your business is with the company you do work for.

Flipping it on its head assume you and employee B work at different premises, where B works they get no benefits but you ahev the same boss, why should you get benefits that B doesn't get.

The place where you work pay for a service, your employers are responsible for providing that service within probably an SLA. Outside that they probably don't care about you at all, they want a service NOT a pseudo-employee. Thats one of the main reasons people use companies providing a service and do not directly employ the staff themselves.
 
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Groen whenever you make a thread complaining about work, it always reminds me of this thread you started..

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18373046&highlight=nap+username_groen

Groen said:
I found this spot behind the racks in the server/comms room, underneath this shelf/table that that is quite comfortable. It can get a bit chilly and it is a bit noisy, but nothing like having a quick 30 min nap after lunch.

Anyone else have any hidden sleeping spots at work?
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:rolleyes:
 
Supercow said:
Ah well, groen - then stop moaning about it, go self employed and take the risk - simples.

You'll soon find out whether you are crap or not. and be contempt with what you have.
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This.

So if someone offers you coffee and gives you a gym membership - everything is alright?

Grow up - stop moaning about stupid insignificant things.
 
groen said:
I have worked at their premises for 3 years. They don't pay me directly but i work for them as much as anyone else here.
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Er, you really don't. You work for Company X - you have a contract of service with that company. The end client buys a *service* from Company X and has a contract of services with Company X.

Your welfare and package is the responsibility of Company X and nothing to do with the end-client.
 
Supercow said:
In all fairness, I see zero issues with that - wish it was more acceptable actually.

You have an hour's lunch - you take 20 minutes of that to eat, the rest of a quick nap (if no one will find you)...and you are ready for the rest of the day.
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I can't work out if he actually meant 30mins out of his lunch break or his lunch break then a 30min nap.
 
Lol at the irony of Groen moaning about capitalism.

Sounds like you're hankering after a little socialist love, eh Groen?
 
Supercow said:
In all fairness, I see zero issues with that - wish it was more acceptable actually.

You have an hour's lunch - you take 20 minutes of that to eat, the rest of a quick nap (if no one will find you)...and you are ready for the rest of the day.
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Except that it is taken after lunch, during work, else why the need to hide? If you want a 20 min nap within your own lunch no need to hide is there, it's your time to do with what you want.
 
Freakbro said:
Except that it is taken after lunch, during work, else why the need to hide? If you want a 20 min nap within your own lunch no need to hide is there, it's your time to do with what you want.
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Well, I think napping would be frowned upon in most working environments, regardless of wether you're doing it in your lunchbreak. It's not really entirely your own time, s you are still on company property and as such, representing your company in some way shape or form. Customers on site for example would take offense spotting a sleeping employee.
 
I was going to do what a lot of people in this thread have tried to do in explaining why you don't get the benefits that the other staff do.... but I really don't think it is sinking in
 
groen said:
I just think these out sourced contracts should stipulate that on site staff that are permanent and have been there for a say 2 years should have some of the benefits the internal staff get.
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Why?

Do you think these benefits are free? Why should they pay for benefits for someone they don't employ :confused:
 
Basher said:
Why?

Do you think these benefits are free? Why should they pay for benefits for someone they don't employ :confused:
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Because he works there all the time therefore he's now magically employed by them and should get all their benefits, obviously! :p
 
groen in "wah wah wah wah" shocker?

You work for the IT company, not the lawyers. Get over it, or find a new job, or both.
 
groen said:
No i don't make anyone coffee. But neither does other people who do get offered.

We do get invited to the xmas party though and sometimes they invite us to the pub after work. So gym membership is not very unrealistic. I do know them all quite well and i am practically a staff member i just get paid from a different company.
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But you are not staff for the company you are employed from another company what don't you get about YOU ARE NOT STAFF. :D
 
groen said:
We are not directly employed contractors we are permanent staff of an IT company that has the contract to do the IT. Which the law firms benefit from because they always have cover and gain from more technical engineers
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So you're designing, building, supervising installation of new components and systems?

I wish I could be an Engineer like you........

Anyway, stop whining, you're employed by the IT company not the firm you're in day to day. Going by your posts you seem like the typical whiner who moans about how well everyone else is doing/has done and it's not fair. If you want more, then pull your finger out and make something of your career, rather than hiding in your little IT office, complaining about it on a pc parts forum.........
 
I just made tea.. cup, water (warmed using heat source) and tea bag, little stirring. Job done. No project plan either, just did it as I went along.

Am I an engineer? :)


*total rip off of a really daft TV ad.*
 
Surely the libertarian solution would be to take your employment elsewhere and find another job? Rather than whining about the rather socialist concept of workers rights?
 
So, lets say your company (that is the IT company) tell you that you won't be working at the law firm any more, instead they are opening an office in the city and you will be doing all of your work remotely via VPN.
Do you still want all the benefit your company doesn't offer but the law firm does ?

You don't work for the law firm, therefore the benefits they offer don't affect you at all.

Imagine you are the boss of the IT company and you are negotiating a contract with a customer and you say "What benefits do you give employees?"
Customer: "Errm, gym membership and we have a tea boy to save us making drinks"
"Superb, we'd like you to pay for that for our employees"
Customer: "Are you having a laugh ? Erm, I'll show you out, we'll call you about the contract"

If you want a better job go find one.
 
You're contractor scum. Get used to it.

If you want the benefits your client gives to their employees, get a job with them instead.
 
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