Now try and get out of it....

MrMatteh said:
does the 6 month thing apply if they don't pull you over?
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believe its after they have NIP'd you, dont quote me but I'm pretty sure thats how its works - gives them ages to make up some crap and make sure you cant remember a thing about the incident :D
 
Will Gill said:
believe its after they have NIP'd you, dont quote me but I'm pretty sure thats how its works - gives them ages to make up some crap and make sure you cant remember a thing about the incident :D
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bloke at the roadside said up to 3 months

with it now being nearly 4 im wondering whats going on. Other people on here have got summonced in weeks rather than months

that combined with the fact im doubtfull he got a read at all (his windows were shut, and he apparently managed to get me travelling past lamp posts at 100mph) so im now wondering if they are in fact going to prosecute.

Have you ever been pulled will ? i only one got one tiny slip of white paper, post it note size. Other people on here have got much more substantial paperwork.
 
Dashik said:
Well those crimes get invesetigated as well. Maybe the fact that on average a road traffic accident resulting in a death costs around £1.4 milion and like it or not, speed IS a factor in the outcome of the accident and it's also a crime.
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What about all the people that die in hospitals from MRSA etc. which greatly outnumber deaths caused by speeding and are far more preventable. Are their lives somehow worth less because they are in hospital rather than on a road? If not why isn't a simmilar amount of effort being expended to save their lives?

What is a criminal shame is that it seems the vast majority of the public are incapable of thinking or researching anything for themselves and are happy to believe anything the Government says. I wonder how many people belive the 3500 odd road deaths every year are solely caused by murdering speeders? Quite a few I bet, apparently including yourself.

Paul Smith has hit the nail on the head. This is yet more bluff and bluster in order to keep the gravy train from being derailed. Road Safety is clearly not a priority, exercising their power to prosecute is.
 
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MrLOL said:
bloke at the roadside said up to 3 months

with it now being nearly 4 im wondering whats going on. Other people on here have got summonced in weeks rather than months

that combined with the fact im doubtfull he got a read at all (his windows were shut, and he apparently managed to get me travelling past lamp posts at 100mph) so im now wondering if they are in fact going to prosecute.

Have you ever been pulled will ? i only one got one tiny slip of white paper, post it note size. Other people on here have got much more substantial paperwork.
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when I got properly pulled, they take your license away and give you a yellow substitute, that was back in the dark ages though so not sure what the current policy is :D
 
Will Gill said:
when I got properly pulled, they take your license away and give you a yellow substitute, that was back in the dark ages though so not sure what the current policy is :D
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somebody else on here said the same thing happened recently

that they got pulled and handed over the license at the road side

ive still got mine ...

dont know what to make of it. short of ringing up and asking "you going to prosecute me or not"

i think ill just keep quiet and see what happens.
 
So are you saying that if the speed limit was abolished on the motorways/dual carriageways that you would abide by speed limits elsewhere?

Abolishing the speed limit on dual carriageways would be criminal and you would see death rates rocket.
 
Tdh1987 said:
I would never contest it tbh, you do the crime, you do the time. :o

Unless of course I genuinely wasn't speeding.
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I feel exactly the same as you to be honest - same goes for parking tickets.
The ONLY time you'd find me in a court contesting it would be if I knew full well that I hadn't done the crime.

The people who recieve a fine for speeding and/or parking and their first thought is "Right, must find out how to get out of this" rather than "Humm, when was that, was I actually speeding and/or parking illegally that day" annoy the hell out of me.
 
markyp23 said:
So are you saying that if the speed limit was abolished on the motorways/dual carriageways that you would abide by speed limits elsewhere?

Abolishing the speed limit on dual carriageways would be criminal and you would see death rates rocket.
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Well, except of course you wouldn't... The vast majority of drivers drive to the conditions even now (myself included), the abolishment of the speed limit wouldn't mean I would feel the need to drive faster all the time, simply that when it was safe to do so, I could legally do so.

To assume that removal or a scaling down of limit enforcement would result in more deaths is to totally ignore the figures and statistics for the last 20 years (including the switch to absolute speed enforcement which reduced the rate of reduction in deaths).
 
No I stand by my comments on dual carriageways.

Motorways are probably OK, but dual carriageways are too dangerous for it.

EDIT: What makes you think that drivers are responsible? Give any newly-passed young man the opportunity to go fast and something tells me he'll take it. I don't quite fancy the thought of OAPs driving 100mph+
 
Dolph said:
Well, except of course you wouldn't... The vast majority of drivers drive to the conditions even now (myself included), the abolishment of the speed limit wouldn't mean I would feel the need to drive faster all the time, simply that when it was safe to do so, I could legally do so.
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exactly

all it would stop would be this relentless campain of hate towards motorists.

its been proven this campain does nothing but line the coffers of plod. Case in point using my local safety camera partnerships own data

http://www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/fixed-location-stats.htm?camera=51

Safety Camera on Denby Dale Road went live in feb 2003. In 2001, there was nobody killed or seriously injured, in 2002 there was 1 person, in 2003 there were none, same again in 2004, but in 2005 somebody was killed or seriously injured despite the cameras being there.

in 2003, there was 4 collisions involving people, in 2004 that number rose up to 7.

The problems that got this camera installed, where the 7 people that were killed or seriously injured in one year in 2000. But the year after that, before the camera was introduced the figure went back to zero that year of their own accord.

These cameras have no effect whatsoever on accident rates, and are there purely to line plods pockets.
 
markyp23 said:
No I stand by my comments on dual carriageways.

Motorways are probably OK, but dual carriageways are too dangerous for it.

EDIT: What makes you think that drivers are responsible? Give any newly-passed young man the opportunity to go fast and something tells me he'll take it. I don't quite fancy the thought of OAPs driving 100mph+
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nobody's saying that people should be allowed to drive however they want regardless

just that the police need to start using good old fashioned policing and pulling over pople that are actually causing problems, rather than having to meet targets and planting scameras everywhere to boost statistics / rake in cash.
 
Will Gill said:
when I got properly pulled, they take your license away and give you a yellow substitute, that was back in the dark ages though so not sure what the current policy is :D
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Crucifixion I believe. Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each.
 
markyp23 said:
I don't quite fancy the thought of OAPs driving 100mph+
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I dunno about you but I dont think I have ever seen an OAP drive at the speed limit, they probably dont even know what it is half the time (40 in a 60 followed by 40 in a 30). I dont think we have to worry about them doing 100+ mph in their 20 year old banger
 
MrLOL said:
exactly

all it would stop would be this relentless campain of hate towards motorists.

its been proven this campain does nothing but line the coffers of plod. Case in point using my local safety camera partnerships own data

http://www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/fixed-location-stats.htm?camera=51

Safety Camera on Denby Dale Road went live in feb 2003. In 2001, there was nobody killed or seriously injured, in 2002 there was 1 person, in 2003 there were none, same again in 2004, but in 2005 somebody was killed or seriously injured despite the cameras being there.

in 2003, there was 4 collisions involving people, in 2004 that number rose up to 7.

The problems that got this camera installed, where the 7 people that were killed or seriously injured in one year in 2000. But the year after that, before the camera was introduced the figure went back to zero that year of their own accord.

These cameras have no effect whatsoever on accident rates, and are there purely to line plods pockets.
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Or put simply: Regression to the Mean
 
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