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NVIDIA 4000 Series

That’s exactly my point though. You’re clearly not getting the most out the games you play so an upgrade makes sense.

We’ve hit a wave of new semi-next-gen games, which makes upgrading more meaningful, as opposed to when the cards launched. It’s not like the 4080 isn’t a strong card.
Of course the 4080 is a strong card. But the amount of people on the Internet who say they were a bit underwhelmed after upgrading from a 3080 numbers many. It's what you actually notice in terms of uplift. And for the cost of them, I'd want to notice a lot.

That's not the case now. As said above, tune your settings. Because for the current cost, not even people like me who like a bit of shiny and new when their current card is 3 years old will bite. Almost twice the price of its predecessor? No. Not even for these 'reduced' prices. There are better things to spend that money on.

Or not spend that money on.
 
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The problem with waiting is you spend a year or two with poor performance. There is always something better around the corner so waiting is a game that doesn't really pay off past a certain point. I know peoples circumstances are different but for me waiting 4 years between upgrades is to long. I would rather upgrade between 2 to 3 years depending on the state of current games and GPU's in that cycle. The 3080 is already struggling in games like Alan Wake with full RT and enjoying games like that now with a 4080 super makes more sense to me then waiting an extra year or longer. There is no guarantee the 5xxx will be out in the next 12 months in fact it think its more likely it will be more then 12 months. If I wait and it is next year that for me will be 5 ish years between getting a 3080 and moving to a 5xxx.
I have put off buying a new Graphics card, first because the 3000 series was around the corner, then due to COVID/Crypto prices, then due to the stupid pricing of the 4000 series but will the 5000 series pricing really be any better, I do not think so, the 80 cards are I think at there new price point, £900-1000, and the 70 cards will hover around the £600 point.

Yes, the 5000 series will have improved performance, but that is not the given it used to be, and there is no guarantee that it will be a massive improvement over the 4000 series, but in the end most improvements are not ones your average gamer will notice when playing games, if they have a previous generation or 2 card.

If you have the 3000 series card there is no harm in waiting as the performance improvements are not that great when upgrading, even a 2000 series card would tide most gamers over, but for those on GTX 1000 series or below, updating to a RTX 4000 card is a serious improvement, even to a 4060.

If like me you are on a GTX 1000 series card, or older, then you prize longevity, as you do not need the latest generation, so you may buy on a certain set of requirements, and performance will only be one criteria, another may be VRAM, say minimum 16GB, does the card or GPU have any technical issues, can it accommodate monitor upgrades etc.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no general "best time" to buy a graphics card just the best time for you. If you are having issues playing the latest games or you have upgraded your monitor say to 1440p or 4K and struggling with your Graphics card then it would be now, but if you have no issues then you can wait.

In the end the only opinion that matters is your own and what makes you happy.
 
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Of course the 4080 is a strong card. But the amount of people on the Internet who say they were a bit underwhelmed after upgrading from a 3080 numbers many. It's what you actually notice in terms of uplift. And for the cost of them, I'd want to notice a lot.

That's not the case now. As said above, tune your settings. Because for the current cost, not even people like me who like a bit of shiny and new when their current card is 3 years old will bite. Almost twice the price of its predecessor? No. Not even for these 'reduced' prices. There are better things to spend that money on.

Or not spend that money on.
If I'm spending almost 50% more on a new GPU after 3.5 years then I expect way more than a +50% performance increase, if i'm eventually forced to pay the higher premiums in the end at least by next year the 5080 will be 100+% faster for around the same money so as a 3080 owner it makes sense to wait.

The downside for Nvidia is that I'm actually now spending less on their products overall by moving to a 4 year upgrade cycle than if they had kept prices at more reasonable level and kept me buying every generation.
 
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If I'm spending almost 50% more on a new GPU after 3.5 years then I expect way more than a +50% performance increase, if i'm eventually forced to pay the higher premiums in the end at least by next year the 5080 will be 100+% faster for around the same money so as a 3080 owner it makes sense to wait.

The downside for Nvidia is that I'm actually now spending less on their products overall by moving to a 4 year upgrade cycle than if they had kept prices at more reasonable level and kept me buying every generation.
It's the same terrible business model as free-to-play games. Plenty people would buy a cosmetic for £5, but there are also individuals who will pay £20 for the same thing - clearly the later works. If the 4080 was £650, I'd have been far more inclined to upgrade.

Seeing how the 4090 just hangs in there at 60FPS for some of the more recent games (not that games are optimised), I'd rather hold out and potentially get that same performance but for far less. GDDR7 could also be interesting.
 
I'd have paid up to £800 for the 4080 on release, realistically things are more expensive than back when the 3080 was released let alone before and in its own right it is a decent card just not £1000+ worthy, but at this point in the product cycle it should be coming down a bit. They really should fire whoever has come up with the product line up this generation IMO, having come to the point of having to release a 4070ti Super is just silly.

The smart money really was getting the 4090 on day 1 and (hopefully) shifting it on just before the next gen.

On another note the 4080 Super is actually listed on the nVidia site for the UK this time :s
 
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I have put off buying a new Graphics card, first because the 3000 series was around the corner, then due to COVID/Crypto prices, then due to the stupid pricing of the 4000 series but will the 5000 series pricing really be any better, I do not think so, the 80 cards are I think at there new price point, £900-1000, and the 70 cards will hover around the £600 point.

Yes, the 5000 series will have improved performance, but that is not the given it used to be, and there is no guarantee that it will be a massive improvement over the 4000 series, but in the end most improvements are not ones your average gamer will notice when playing games, if they have a previous generation or 2 card.

If you have the 3000 series card there is no harm in waiting as the performance improvements are not that great when upgrading, even a 2000 series card would tide most gamers over, but for those on GTX 1000 series or below, updating to a RTX 4000 card is a serious improvement, even to a 4060.

If like me you are on a GTX 1000 series card, or older, then you prize longevity, as you do not need the latest generation, so you may buy on a certain set of requirements, and performance will only be one criteria, another may be VRAM, say minimum 16GB, does the card or GPU have any technical issues, can it accommodate monitor upgrades etc.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no general "best time" to buy a graphics card just the best time for you. If you are having issues playing the latest games or you have upgraded your monitor say to 1440p or 4K and struggling with your Graphics card then it would be now, but if you have no issues then you can wait.

In the end the only opinion that matters is your own and what makes you happy.

There certainly is a best time or at least better or worse times to buy. I do it all the time and works fine for me.

That said I do agree that what matters most is your own opinion and what makes you happy.

£950 4080 Sup performance will likely be £500-600 in 12 months or so, maybe less. Will be more eff etc and maybe have a new feature locked like DLSS 4 or some crap. Question is, is the ~£300 or so loss and those features worth waiting for you? Obviously no guarantees, but one can take an educated guess.
 
The smart money really was getting the 4090 on day 1 and (hopefully) shifting it on just before the next gen.

Once I have more time for gaming in the future this will be my tactic. Buy an top end FE, use it 18 months or thereabouts. Then sell it on for a small loss and get a older card that will hardly depreciate relatively speaking and play less demanding games until next gen is out.
 
£950 4080 Sup performance will likely be £500-600 in 12 months or so, maybe less. Will be more eff etc and maybe have a new feature locked like DLSS 4 or some crap. Question is, is the ~£300 or so loss and those features worth waiting for you? Obviously no guarantees, but one can take an educated guess.
I am not so sure that pricing will drop, as Nvidia know they have no real competition, and they are the best technically, so there is no incentive from there side, and I believe will wait out customers over pricing, afterall its not like they are short of money, nor making money on the RTX cards, just not as much as before.
 
I am not so sure that pricing will drop, as Nvidia know they have no real competition, and they are the best technically, so there is no incentive from there side, and I believe will wait out customers over pricing, afterall its not like they are short of money, nor making money on the RTX cards, just not as much as before.

People said something similar after Turing. In my opinion the probability of them not improving price for performance is slim.

If rumours of what amd are doing is right we might get 7900 XTX performance much cheaper as mid range card. Can't see Nvidia not wanting to compete.

But to be fair it is hard to give good predictions due to AI using up so much silicone.
 
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People said something similar after Turing. In my opinion the probability of them of them not improving price for performance is slim.

If rumours of what amd are doing is right we might get 7900 XTX performance much cheaper as mid range card. Can't see Nvidia not wanting to compete.

But to be fair it is hard to give good predictions due to AI using up so much silicone.
In the last few years I probably have become a bit too jaded, but I hope that you are right.
 
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Not specifically 40 series but all supported NV cards now have expanded NVEnc features. Nice.

 

The only card to buy. :D :D :D
 
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