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NVIDIA 4000 Series

I sold my Rig last year and so happy I that I did, Buidling a new one now. Have all the parts except 13900K (pre-ordered) Maximus Hero Z790 (Pre-ordered) except a 4090.

I hope to secure a Founders Edition Card today but I realize, I have little to no chance.

Happy to be back here again and watch the slander as it ensues on this disastrous launch.
 
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Not sure this is the best forum for politics, why should things be evened out? The tax system is already progressive with earnings above around £32k taxed at 40% for income tax, so higher rate taxpayers pay a disproportionate percentage of tax from their income. In the seventies the UK had top rate of tax at 90%... And all the people paying the lions share of tax who could do so left the country to avoid it. That didn't work very well either. The market lost faith in Truss/Kwarteng because they proposed tax-cuts (the idea being to stimulate productivity and reap greater total tax revenue) based upon borrowing more, much of it in guaranteeing to pay energy companies the difference in order to cap the maximum rate to energy consumers (and amounting to perhaps 4% of UK GDP on that alone), and that's not even mentioning the unchecked money printing since 2008 that went into overdrive with the release of the Nvidia RTX2020 money printer several years ago. For comparison the 5% cut to the top 45% tax rate costs the treasury £2b. The gas-subsidies around £65b at least iirc (and potentially much more) , and printing money by BoE since March 2020 something like £400-600b to put things in perspective.

Anyway, we were saying something about graphics cards...
Long post, wrong thread
 
Watching the video's have made me think about the following...bearing in mind I'm still on a 1060 6gb due to the 3xxx supply/price issues.

  • The power cable (especially the adapter) coming out of the side, will it all actually fit in my case (o11 evo) without causing unnecessary stress on the new power socket (which looks pretty weak)... after market cable seems like a must (reviews needed on support etc now). I can completely see what Jay is on about in his video.... and I kind of wonder why they don't do 2 positions to chose from because clearly the end (front of case) will be better for some people.
  • Is my 5950x actually fast enough to fully utilise the 4080/4090 without causing a cpu bottleneck in 4k gaming... yes I know it's a weird thought but it might actually be an issue based on what I watched.
  • Can I stop my 'stupid side' going for a 4090 because of the juicy performance in non gaming workloads....
  • The 3xxx series really needs a decent price drop now.
  • RDNA3 info needs to come out 'now' and I hope AMD haven't dropped the ball.

EDIT: Cablemods are doing a right angled adapter to fix the first issue... hopefully it will be an option on the cables as well.

The only thing I can say, is Your CPU will not bottleneck if like me you run 4k. But if you intend to run 1080p Forget it. 1440p at a push. The CPU will definitely bottleneck at 1080p
 
The only thing I can say, is Your CPU will not bottleneck if like me you run 4k. But if you intend to run 1080p Forget it. 1440p at a push. The CPU will definitely bottleneck at 1080p

There are many sources that have found that CPU's are a major bottleneck even at 4k on 4090, due to it being just so damn fast. If you're not rocking a 12th, 13th gen CPU from Intel, or Ryzen 7000 series, you'll be leaving performance on the table at 4K, making this a wasteful purchase IMO.
 
I own a Coolermaster C700M, and I know im gonna struggle

Also 4 PCIeslots, no space for my sound card and wifi card

So, ive bought an external DAC, but my wifi6 card is crucial so i need to think of a way to get that in my mobo
 
There are many sources that have found that CPU's are a major bottleneck even at 4k on 4090, due to it being just so damn fast. If you're not rocking a 12th, 13th gen CPU from Intel, or Ryzen 7000 series, you'll be leaving performance on the table at 4K, making this a wasteful purchase IMO.

Yeah that seems to be the general consensus when I was reading them last night. There isnt a CPU fast enough to keep up with the 4090 at 4k. How times have changed.
 
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There are many sources that have found that CPU's are a major bottleneck even at 4k on 4090, due to it being just so damn fast. If you're not rocking a 12th, 13th gen CPU from Intel, or Ryzen 7000 series, you'll be leaving performance on the table at 4K, making this a wasteful purchase IMO.
What is the results or the symptoms of bottleneck?
 
The only thing I can say, is Your CPU will not bottleneck if like me you run 4k. But if you intend to run 1080p Forget it. 1440p at a push. The CPU will definitely bottleneck at 1080p
i thought the same as you too, but watch this vid from 5:30

 
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That's not true at all, what are you on about
Sorry, I guess it depends which games you look at, I had a quick skim through the games I'm currently playing and my monitor is 1440p/144hz, and in terms of minimum frame rates on several reviews there were several cases where the 1% lows were actually worse than the 3080ti/90ti

obviously I'm looking at this very selfishly and I can't justify that amount of money for a card that seems flaky at best in the games I'm actually likely to use it for
 
So technically speaking, some people need to buy a whole new system to run this card. That skewers the price to performance graph massively.
So technically speaking, some people need to buy a whole new system to run this card. That skewers the price to performance graph massively.


I suppose if someone wants to really justify it they can by saying:

* Yea it's bottlenecked at 4k with my CPU that's with current games, future games will have more demanding graphics so the cpu might matter less

* the bottleneck exists in games that don't use Ray tracing or support dlss3 and I mainly play RT games so the cpu matters less
 
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