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NVIDIA 4000 Series

I'm going to guess... inheritance.
It was arknor all along! In the study, with the lead pipe :eek:

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Fitted my EK ABP for the 4090 today , it is a stunning bit of kit and has knocked off 30 deg in temp while gaming and now holds its boost much more stable and will even boost a few bins higher going up to 3165Mhz from 3120Mhz in heaven benchmark. Now sits at 40 deg while playing mw2 down from 70 deg previously . Hotspot seem perfect being 8-9 deg over the main core temp , Memory is now much cooler often sitting low 30 deg. Extremely tight fit on my mb with about 0.5mm to spare with the ram slot but it fit. Getting to the Pcie latch is now an absolute pig to get at , apart from that all good :D

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Never saw the appeal of that benchmark
I have always used it a reference for temps and clock frequency , its got a thread on this forum that is still very active and goes back years ... my 1080ti, 3080, 3090 & 4090 results are in there somewhere. I also find the theme tune catchy :cry:
 
It's a stability test only, the benchmark or scores doesn't matter
Yep I agree, As old as heaven is It's actually very good for testing your GPU for both memory and core stability, I still use it to this day, I remember with the 30x series when everyone was pushing their Vram to stupid high clocks (Bragging rights) Only to find they were getting lower FPS haha because heaven is great at finding the optimal Vram overclock, I saw it with my own eyes, My Zotac 3080 anything above +900 and performance was degrading but not crashing.

I guarantee you it's the same again with the 4090, People claiming stupid high +1500 and onwards Vram clocks but I guarantee half of them won't be getting the performance to go with it :D
 
Yeah I’m sure those games are great on the quest with a 6800… it’s not like AMD are unusable.

Unfortunately I’m running higher resolution (G2 currently and have a Crystal preorder), and my most commonly played games are also possibly the worst for performance in VR, sims like ACC and MSFS.

The biggest barrier however is that both Varjo and now Pimax simply don’t support AMD with their newest headsets due to the frameworks Nvidia provides that underpins how they work… you have to wonder if that’s going to become more and more common as these more advanced headsets with foveated rendering become the norm. As one example according to mbucchia (developer of OpenXR toolkit and WMR dev) AMD doesn’t support foveated rendering at all in DX11 and only in DX12, which obviously isn’t much use when the majority of games are still DX11. Nvidia have provided the tools to get it working in both.

I think the issue is drivers for AMD but I would not use the likes of Pimax as any kind of yardstick considering how terrible they are. Expect your Crystal by the middle to end of next year. They caught me out with the Pimax 8k preorder that was meant to release in 3 months, ended up waiting a year.

Terrible company to be throwing £2000 at for an unreleased product. Certainly not something I would allow to dictate my GPU purchasing choices.

I have a vive pro 2 and a Pimax 8k both gathering dust. VR just not all that really and I’m well in to flight sims.
 
So my plan to get "cheaper" 4090 in 4080 failed epically :D
NV really need to wake up and get some coffee - 4080 prices + gauging are totally our of control.
Might as well just go for cheap 3080 as im sitting atm on simple Zotac 2070 :o
 
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Terrible company to be throwing £2000 at for an unreleased product. Certainly not something I would allow to dictate my GPU purchasing choices.

I have a vive pro 2 and a Pimax 8k both gathering dust. VR just not all that really and I’m well in to flight sims.

Few points

Firstly I haven’t thrown £2k at them for an unreleased product, I threw a £30 refundable reservation at them… I’m aware of their track record and am waiting for all the feedback from the road shows over the next month before I will commit anything more.

Secondly, it’s not just pimax it’s Varjo too… (and a couple of other high end commercial only headsets like starVR for example). The common theme is that Nvidia is providing a better framework for these advanced VR headsets and actively working with the manufacturers. Varjo and Pimax have both made mention in the past that AMD hasn’t been responsive to them when they’ve tried to engage.

Thirdly, to each their own - VR is in fact “all that” to me with my reverb G2 and motion rig setup that I currently have. If you don’t particularly enjoy it that’s your prerogative but I don’t share your opinion.
 
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Few points

Firstly I haven’t thrown £2k at them for an unreleased product, I threw a £30 refundable reservation at them… I’m aware of their track record and am waiting for all the feedback from the road shows over the next month before I will commit anything more.

Secondly, it’s not just pimax it’s Varjo too… (and a couple of other high end commercial only headsets like starVR for example). The common theme is that Nvidia is providing a better framework for these advanced VR headsets and actively working with the manufacturers. Varjo and Pimax have both made mention in the past that AMD hasn’t been responsive to them when they’ve tried to engage.

Thirdly, to each their own - VR is in fact “all that” to me with my reverb G2 and motion rig setup that I currently have. If you don’t particularly enjoy it that’s your prerogative but I don’t share your opinion.

I am referencing the fact you plan to spend £2k with Pimax and as you acknowledge they have a terrible track record for delivering on promises.

You have video gaming > PC gaming > high end PC gaming > VR > high end VR. So high end VR costing thousands is a niche within a niche, within a niche within a niche, within a niche.

I get VR is here to stay but for the vast VAST majority of PC gamers it is not even on their radar, let alone “all that”. So most will not base their GPU purchasing decisions on if it will work with a £2k - £3k niche VR headset.
 
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