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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

This is the problem, the 35% uplift is based on pixel count Nvidia’s own RT marketing slides. We don’t get pure raster performance. My own personal experience has been to knock ~10% - 15% off those and you get the reality.

Going from a 3080 to a 4080 gave me about a 35% to 40% performance boost at 4K in pure raster. Add RT and it was indeed 50% with DLSS added. Nvidia’s slides showed about 50% increase from 3080 to 4080.
 
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mrk said:
I did think about that last night after my last post, nothing coming out before 2027/2028 seems to paint a picture of a need for a GPU higher than a 4090, and I know for sure that come those years I will be on a 40" or greater ultrawide OLED pushing at least 240Hz and 5120x2160. Perhaps doing what I originally intended by skipping 50 series entirely is the wiser option and going 60 series when those games are out.
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Yeah, but much faster RT and a lot more vram alone are big reasons for you to upgrade. Not to mention having the best. I can tell you relished having the best gpu. Treat yourself.l :p
 
Had a come to Jesus moment yesterday when questioned by a buddy who also is looking at a 5080 or 5090. "You're going to spend 2400 quid when you play Rogue Trader and Civilization 90% of the time?" That dog just don't hunt, and now with the likelyhood of the rasterisation uptick being relatively dire and with the indications -- as suspected -- actual street price would be notably more than RRP, I (and I think a lot of other actual gamers) have less of a reason.

I'm leaning more and more to looking at a mid-range purchase e.g. 5070 ti or 9070xt at most. If they get pricing right, the 9070xt in particular sounds interesting considering the recent rumors of many AIB models hitting 4080/Super performance.
 
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razorpakk said:
I think RT performance matters at least as much as raster.

When do you need more performance? When activating RT/PT. We've been able to max out regular games for a long time.
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Depends what you play. I lean towards online shooters so max raster performance is what I would benefit more from. Having said that, I have held off playing CP2077 with path tracing, so maybe a 5090 will allow me to do so at more than 60fps with DLSS performance, or frame gen at 100ish. All comes down to 5090 FE availability for me.
 
We can max out RT/PT right now as it is, with the DLSS upgrades coming to all RTX, that will only make the IQ better and fps higher still. There's a reason why Nvidia is releasing DLSS4 on RTX50 first, then unlocking it to the previous gens, otherwise more people would not bother once they see the uplift on the 40 series from just the DLSS4 updates.

There's a time for everything, the time for a 4090 to a 5090 isn't now, it is when 60 series is out as mentioned above, when power draw is matured to sensible levels too which should be the case with 60 as new fab process so more efficient, less heat, lower draw.
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
Fair play, no judgement from me!

Speaking of PSUs, i’m hoping my trusty RM850x can power a 9800X3D and 5090. Should be ok if the 5090 is as efficient as the 4090 and I can run it at 80% or so. I will at least try it before upgrading.
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And here I am writing off the 5090 because of my worry my HX1000i won't manage a 7800X3D and 5090 :O
 
Kanpai said:
And here I am writing off the 5090 because of my worry my HX1000i won't manage a 7800X3D and 5090 :O
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I was also teetering on upgrading my EVGA 1000w (also using a 7800x3d) when I was looking at a 5090 but fugured a) it should sitll work and b) you should just try it, and if there's a problem undervolt for a few days while you're waiting for a new one. No sense in pre-emptively spending money (and having to spend time rewiring) when you don't know you need to.
 
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If RT performance has improved enough so that you can run AAA games without completely gimping performance then I guess I can live without super raster performance. The problem I think many have is they 'fall back' to raster when RT perf. is poor.
 
harmattan said:
I was also teetering on upgrading my EVGA 1000w (also using a 7800x3d) when I was looking at a 5090 but fugured a) it should sitll work and b) you should just try it, and if there's a problem undervolt for a few days while you're waiting for a new one. No sense in pre-emptively spending money (and having to spend time rewiring) when you don't know you need to.
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Good idea, but I'm trying to talk myself out of buying a 5090 either way lol, 5080 will be enough :D
 
razorpakk said:
I think RT performance matters at least as much as raster.

When do you need more performance? When activating RT/PT. We've been able to max out regular games for a long time.
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Exactly.

What makes me laugh is. Before the announcement many people here with a 4090 were going on about rt performance.

You know it mattered a lot because amd's 7900xtx had great raster but rt performance was relatively poor. It was all rt rt rt.

Now suddenly raster performance matters a lot! Just sounds like excuse to justify not upgrading due to the price starting to get a bit too expensive :cry:
 
mrk said:
We can max out RT/PT right now as it is, with the DLSS upgrades coming to all RTX, that will only make the IQ better and fps higher still. There's a reason why Nvidia is releasing DLSS4 on RTX50 first, then unlocking it to the previous gens, otherwise more people would not bother once they see the uplift on the 40 series from just the DLSS4 updates.

There's a time for everything, the time for a 4090 to a 5090 isn't now, it is when 60 series is out as mentioned above, when power draw is matured to sensible levels too which should be the case with 60 as new fab process so more efficient, less heat, lower draw.
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Will quote this. Can use it once you get a 5090 to play witcher 4 maxed out :D
 
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