NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[NZXT30]

These next gen consoles are the best thing that could happen to pc gaming. Pricing was getting totally out of control.

 

[willhub]

So I'm running a PCI 3.0 system. I need NVME Adaptor for the pcie slot for another nvme, then I need a 3080Ti and an NVMe. So it's going to be touch and go if I don't bin PC gaming/ I mean, I would hope a 3080Ti or even a 3080 would be A LOT more powerful than the consoles and not be extortionate, because if so, well goodbye pc I guess.

 

[Panos]

Does the storage systems on the series x and PS5 outmatch current PC performance such as NVME? I was thinking 3080 or 3080 Ti and a 1 or 2TB NVMe and I should be good to go with my current specs (in sig)

My CPU is almost certainly better than that of the next console.

I've already got 300 quid saved, was spending money for holiday (now cancelled) - every cloud eh?

PS5 yes outmatches everything we have on PC as it is using something like the upcoming Samsung 980 EVO (Pro is 6.5GB/s). XBX is more or less in line to PC performance we have currently in this sector.

However the thing is that PS5 games, especially the exclusives, will be designed and coded different than the current PC/Xbox who have to facilitate for all those lemons found on Steam survey..... Unfortunately we are becoming "PC peasants".

 

[McGraw]

Checked in for some Ampere news/gossip...see a discussion about console hard drives

 

[opethdisciple]

So I'm running a PCI 3.0 system. I need NVME Adaptor for the pcie slot for another nvme, then I need a 3080Ti and an NVMe. So it's going to be touch and go if I don't bin PC gaming/ I mean, I would hope a 3080Ti or even a 3080 would be A LOT more powerful than the consoles and not be extortionate, because if so, well goodbye pc I guess.

Looking at your system specs in sig it's still pretty high end mate.

All you 'need' (need is subjective) to do is upgrade the mobo. Either X570, B550 or wait for the x670.

I wouldn't bother upgrading your current NVME drive to a pcie 4 drive that would be a waste.

 

[Grim5]

Does the storage systems on the series x and PS5 outmatch current PC performance such as NVME? I was thinking 3080 or 3080 Ti and a 1 or 2TB NVMe and I should be good to go with my current specs (in sig)

My CPU is almost certainly better than that of the next console.

I've already got 300 quid saved, was spending money for holiday (now cancelled) - every cloud eh?

that is difficult to answer.

just because consoles are using a pcie4 Nvme drive does not mean it's equal to a PC Nvme drive.

fundamental the SSD on console and PC will be used in a different way.

Without the explaining step by step, the crux of is that the consoles will use the SSD like PCs use RAM. So while on PC the ssd is now just for storing data, the consoles use it as real time fast memory.

if I had to take a stand and choose a side today, I would say that the ps5's SSD will be faster, have lower latency and quicker random read time than any drive you can buy on PC - the architecture driving it is magnificent to look at it.


For PC our architecture doesn't support using the SSD in quite the same way, though I do expect more games to start using our Nvme drives in a similar way, they just aren't as capable as those consoles - so our ddr4 system RAM will still need to be used.

 

[Calin Banc]

Does the storage systems on the series x and PS5 outmatch current PC performance such as NVME? I was thinking 3080 or 3080 Ti and a 1 or 2TB NVMe and I should be good to go with my current specs (in sig)

My CPU is almost certainly better than that of the next console.

I've already got 300 quid saved, was spending money for holiday (now cancelled) - every cloud eh?

Best would be to wait for the consoles and games to launch, see how they behave and how much of that theoretical stuff is also seen in real life applications in comparison with what you already have or what will be available for the PC at that time.

 

[SirPsychoZe0]

Checked in for some Ampere news/gossip...see a discussion about console hard drives

Yup. It's fun to waste my time...

 

[EllaHughes95]

no idea what this all means but sounds good lol

 

[chaparral]

I heard a small rumour the other day that there is another company out there called AMD which is meant to be bringing out a fast GPU

Has anyone heard of this company called AMD before ?

 

[N19h7m4r3]

The GPU Tflop range on the Xbox looks good!

I hope it helps lower pricing on desktop GPUs to some extent, or at least gets NVIDIA to launch some big improvements compared from 1xxx > 2xxxx series.

 

[TNA]

I heard a small rumour the other day that there is another company out there called AMD which is meant to be bringing out a fast GPU

Has anyone heard of this company called AMD before ?

I heard of them once, apparently their cards are overclockers dream?

 

[tyler_jrb]

PS5 yes outmatches everything we have on PC as it is using something like the upcoming Samsung 980 EVO (Pro is 6.5GB/s). XBX is more or less in line to PC performance we have currently in this sector.

However the thing is that PS5 games, especially the exclusives, will be designed and coded different than the current PC/Xbox who have to facilitate for all those lemons found on Steam survey..... Unfortunately we are becoming "PC peasants".

It’s all well and good but to be honest 825gb minus OS and basic apps isn’t a great deal for games. It certainly will be a strange situation if you’re not willing to spend a few hundred £ for a new super fast drive. Do you then have to constantly transfer/delete games or just have them run like crap on a standard SSD/HDD?

It’s still going a good while before devs and such start to take advantage of the speed, I mean outside of faster loading times etc.

Plus there could always be settings on pc to accommodate different systems if it ever comes to that.

 

[Panos]

It’s all well and good but to be honest 825gb minus OS and basic apps isn’t a great deal for games. It certainly will be a strange situation if you’re not willing to spend a few hundred £ for a new super fast drive. Do you then have to constantly transfer/delete games or just have them run like crap on a standard SSD/HDD?

It’s still going a good while before devs and such start to take advantage of the speed, I mean outside of faster loading times etc.

Plus there could always be settings on pc to accommodate different systems if it ever comes to that.

I wonder how many have their 1TB M.2 full of games these days of which the Windows takes 25GB of that space. Something the PS doesn't.

 

[willhub]

1TB isn't much, I have a single 1TB drive, 250 goes to the OS, lets just say most of my games are still on HDD.

But game loading times are not massively important because even on a HDD these days loading times don't seem too bad, just as long as storage isn't going to impact FPS.

I think a 980 Evo is going to the a pricy addition.

 

[tyler_jrb]

I wonder how many have their 1TB M.2 full of games these days of which the Windows takes 25GB of that space. Something the PS doesn't.

A big title can easily be 100gb+ and that’s just now. Next gen games are likely to be even larger.

1TB isn't much, I have a single 1TB drive, 250 goes to the OS, lets just say most of my games are still on HDD.

But game loading times are not massively important because even on a HDD these days loading times don't seem too bad, just as long as storage isn't going to impact FPS.

I think a 980 Evo is going to the a pricy addition.

I’d agree especially when these drives are likely to be advertised as ps5 compatible.

HDD to SSD is a reasonable step in terms of speed. Tried many games on 3.5gb/s m.2 and the difference in speed is negligible. May make more of a difference as time goes on but at the minute it’s not something most people are bothered about.

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Not to derail this thread further, but I thought they were saying that PS5 titles could well use less disk space, due to no longer having to duplicate data etc?

 

[Panos]

Not to derail this thread further, but I thought they were saying that PS5 titles could well use less disk space, due to no longer having to duplicate data etc?

Yes they will, thats exactly what Mark Cerny said. But well seems many skipped the SSD part of the discussion, went to the graphic and skipped the rest of the video.

Apparently some in here are better on knowing whats going on with the PS5 or what's needed to have a succesful console, than Cerny who is responsible for PS4, PS4Pro, Vita, PSVR & PS5, and is the guy who gathered all the specs needed to produce games from all the game developers across the world!!!!!

 

[Panos]

FYI

2080Ti rendered the scene at 40 microseconds at 2560x1440 using the regular pass through method. Xbox rendered it at 100 microseconds at 4K.
However the Xbox delivered faster render times even at 4K than the 2080Ti.

 

[b00merang69]

My Win 10 is on a 860 Pro 512GB SSD along with 55GB music its @25%, I do not have a ton of programmes these days and Office is 365 so mostly online.

My games are on a 860 Pro 1TB and I do not see how I will need X games installed at same time to need more for now, 6 installed and its @13%, some games I have still to play are larger like 100GB but again not going to take up 1TB and not going to have 10 of them installed at same time.

Storage I have 2x 860 EVO 4TB's in Window Storage Spaces @56%

Ext Backup 4x WD Red's in Raid 10 @59%