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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

The number of people willing to pay $700 for 2080ti + 10% is still smaller than the number of people willing to spend $700 for 2080ti + 40%.

Probably not by a massive margin. Sure a few enthusiasts on forums. The number of people willing to pay $700 for any graphics card is likely pretty tiny to start with. May as well segment the market and take as much out at the top end as you can.


It's still margin vs volume vs total profit.

And the market for people that want 2080Ti + 200% for $10 is probably huge!

Unless there's serious competition from AMD at the top end, I wouldn't expect top end prices to come down any time soon.
 
The number of years doesn't really matter. Between the GTX 480 and the GTX 960 there was 3 generations of GPUs released. The GTX 500 cards, the GTX 600 cards and the GTX 700 cards.

How many GPUs have been released since the 1080 came out? Just one, Turing.

A more accurate comparison would be what price were the GTX 480 cards selling for when the GTX 580 and all were released?
Why doesn't the number of years matter? Just because nvidia can only be bothered to release one architecture in the 4 years since pascal due to lack of competition it doesn't make it ok and just highlights the lack of progress in the Gpu market compared to a 4 year time span 10 years ago which brought 3 architectures and genuine performance boost. Going from a top tier card in 2010 to a top tier card in 2014 brought almost a 300% improvement yet from 2016 to 2020 it's around 40%. The only thing that seems to increase at a decent rate these days is the price and we are paying more for less.
 
The next gen consoles will be raising the bar for IQ and fidelity in games. I'm not looking to buy a next gen GPU to play old titles.

So what I am getting at here is the pricing for these cards may very well be just as they are now. Because the system requirements are higher and the performance is higher meaning nothing has changed.

Expect the level of IQ.
 
Probably not by a massive margin. Sure a few enthusiasts on forums. The number of people willing to pay $700 for any graphics card is likely pretty tiny to start with. May as well segment the market and take as much out at the top end as you can.




And the market for people that want 2080Ti + 200% for $10 is probably huge!

Unless there's serious competition from AMD at the top end, I wouldn't expect top end prices to come down any time soon.

Their last stab at price/performance cost them at least one sale. (Me)

Maybe they'll want my money this time....maybe not.
 
Why doesn't the number of years matter? Just because nvidia can only be bothered to release one architecture in the 4 years since pascal due to lack of competition it doesn't make it ok and just highlights the lack of progress in the Gpu market compared to a 4 year time span 10 years ago which brought 3 architectures and genuine performance boost. Going from a top tier card in 2010 to a top tier card in 2014 brought almost a 300% improvement yet from 2016 to 2020 it's around 40%. The only thing that seems to increase at a decent rate these days is the price and we are paying more for less.

GPU releases from both companies have been getting further and further apart because of the increasing cost and complexity of smaller dies, not because they can't be bothered.

The days of a new line of GPUs coming out every 6-8 months are over.
 
GPU releases from both companies have been getting further and further apart because of the increasing cost and complexity of smaller dies, not because they can't be bothered.

The days of a new line of GPUs coming out every 6-8 months are over.

Which is a good thing.

People are always going on about how expensive GPU's are now, but at least there isn't a newer and better one every 6 months!
 
You’ve basically got a large tranche on PC gamers running on mid-range legacy hardware looking for an upgrade this time around as the 1070s of this world are starting to run short on people’s demands less they remain on 1080p. They can potentially put off an upgrade for one more generation imho but if they’ve made the jump to high refresh 1440p or 4k in particular that era of GPU has run its course.
 
Rumours of Big Navi out by September surely has to be an indicator that Nvidia will do something too.

Can see a lot of people buying Big Navi for CyberPunk if no Nvidia card cuts the mustard.
 
Big Navi would have to be a hell of a performance increase for people to disregard current nVidia cards for that title. Even if nVidia can't release Ampere at the same time, they can just drop pricing on current cards like they've done in the past.
 
Big Navi would have to be a hell of a performance increase for people to disregard current nVidia cards for that title. Even if nVidia can't release Ampere at the same time, they can just drop pricing on current cards like they've done in the past.

That’s what people are expecting based on the hype for the new consoles, e.g. Big Navi significantly better performance than Turing and somewhere close to Ampere.
 
Rumours of Big Navi out by September surely has to be an indicator that Nvidia will do something too.

Can see a lot of people buying Big Navi for CyberPunk if no Nvidia card cuts the mustard.

Cyberpunk won't release if it doesn't run well on all Nvidia cards.

As for big Navi, even if AMD have the faster card with perfect drivers, Nvidia will continue to outsell due to mindshare (average joe will have no clue and will just buy what tomshardware, passmark (basically all the Intel bought news sites) recommend).
 
Rumours of Big Navi out by September surely has to be an indicator that Nvidia will do something too.

Can see a lot of people buying Big Navi for CyberPunk if no Nvidia card cuts the mustard.
Why would Nvidia cards "not cut the mustard" if they are at least 40% faster at rendering with 4x faster ray tracing?
 
Rumours of Big Navi out by September surely has to be an indicator that Nvidia will do something too.

Can see a lot of people buying Big Navi for CyberPunk if no Nvidia card cuts the mustard.


Yeah. Maybe maybe AMD might release a GPU which matches the 2 year old RTX 2080ti.. or even marginally beats it! They'll probably charge £150 less too without RTX features Compelling.

For real tho, I hope they turn up. Nvidia annoy me with their 8bit or 12bit bs over HDMI.
 
Cyberpunks a Nvidia sponsored game (isn't it ?), so it has to run well on their cards.

Yes it is. I don't know if the game uses any gameworks graphics features but it's an Nvidia sponsored game and does feature RTX features.

It's in Nvidia's best interest to ensure this game runs best on Nvidia hardware and Nvidia is usually pretty good at doing that when they sponsor a game.
 
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