£20 per 1fps now thats Value for money right there!.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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£20 per 1fps now thats Value for money right there!.
Soldato
To be fair the 1080 would sell for about £250 (guesstimate). £10 per frame!
3070 will do it if you can wait a bit more. Got to be bonkers spending a 4 figure sum now.
Soldato
I'm not buying anything... defo waiting it out.
Every upgrade I've made has always been double. So that's what I'm after.
I went 670 (briefly flirted with 670 SLI) then 970 then 1080.
That is on average double each hop.
Thought you may have lost the plot after wait this long
Yeah, you may need a 3080 or more to get double the performance.
Just goes to show how poor the new gpus have been for a card that is over 4 years old can still command half the price of what it went for when new. Imagen buying a gtx 480 in 2014 for £200 when for the same price a new GTX 960 was available and gave a 75% improvement.
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Pretty much follow a similar path myself. Every upgrade for me feels like a big step. If i bought every year or 2 i would most likely not get that feeling of getting that big step. I will probably jump on something early next year from Vega 64 with my budget being around £500. The jump should be decent.
Soldato
Maybe wouldn’t be 50frames but I bet it wouldn’t be overly far off. A 1080Ti is just under a 2070S and that is already 30-40% faster.
So if you were averaging 70-80 with a 1080 be getting 110ish with a 2070S at stock, more with a decent OC.
Obviously better waiting at this point for next gen though.
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Bit of a mix and match really as the Super pulls ahead by a fair margin on a number of games but just loses out on a couple others.
Soldato
In the Hardware Unboxed video, they are evenly matched, the 1080ti just being a tad bit faster on some games. There is no much in it really.
Only 2080ti and above but I wouldn't buy now unless super rich or daft.
Soldato
3080Ti will probably be silly pricing again and offer probably a 40% perf jump over a 3070 for 2-3x the price, very poor value, though for people at 4k i can see how that might be needed in demanding games.
Being 1440p as long as i can stay a solid 80-90+fps I'm happy with it, of course the more the better until it barely makes a difference anymore when you start getting over about 120.
Soldato
To be fair, my 1080Ti offers 80-90 fps in most games, so a 2080 would probably be just fine for you.
Yeah, running 1440p it's likely that a regular 3080 will be a good buy without needing a Ti.
I just want the release to be over with now.
The number of years doesn't really matter. Between the GTX 480 and the GTX 960 there was 3 generations of GPUs released. The GTX 500 cards, the GTX 600 cards and the GTX 700 cards.
How many GPUs have been released since the 1080 came out? Just one, Turing.
A more accurate comparison would be what price were the GTX 480 cards selling for when the GTX 580 and all were released?
Soldato
Unless AMD have cheaper competition we can expect similar prices again.
Anyone expecting 3080Ti for £700 is deluded at this point. I’d be surprised if you get much change out of £800 for next gen 3080.
For me 115fps is the limit for the most part. Anything above that is relatively minimal but closer to 100 I can definitely tell the difference in fluidity. I went to 3440x1440@100hz a while ago and really struggled getting used to 100fps in the end I went back to regular 16:9.
Hasn’t been many games my current Ti can’t run 1440p@144hz maxed so next gen should manage it quite easily.
Soldato
The number of people willing to pay $700 for 40% more performance than the 2080 Ti is probably a LOT higher than number of people willing to pay $1400 for that same performance.
If Nvidia can inovate well enough to make a profit off a $700 3080ti, it then becomes an economies of scale question.
Will they make more *total* profit from selling more units at a smaller margin, or fewer units at a bigger margin?
I expect them to price the cards where the balance between volume and margin maximise profit.
There's also the possibility that Nvidia can't figure out a way to move performance ahead without just blowing out production costs and passing those costs onto consumers.
If Nvidia can inovate well enough to make a profit off a $700 3080ti, it then becomes an economies of scale question.
Will they make more *total* profit from selling more units at a smaller margin, or fewer units at a bigger margin?
I expect them to price the cards where the balance between volume and margin maximise profit.
There's also the possibility that Nvidia can't figure out a way to move performance ahead without just blowing out production costs and passing those costs onto consumers.
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But if they can sell 10% more performance than a 2080Ti at $700 and 40% at $1400, then they can capture both parts of the market using product differentiation.
Soldato
The number of people willing to pay $700 for 2080ti + 10% is still smaller than the number of people willing to spend $700 for 2080ti + 40%.
It's still margin vs volume vs total profit.