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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Kelt said:
I'm gearing up for giving the 3 series a miss.

Can't see it being anything else than more expensive than the 2 series, would be glad to be proven wrong.

I've still got so many games to play that my 1070 can handle well, even at 3440x1440, I might as well wait for the 4 series, which will have even more of an RT boost.
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That will likely be no less than 2 years away, maybe closer to 3 from now. Long wait. I can’t wait that long personally. Been waiting for something to improve the price for performance of the Titan XP I had for ages now. Think I got it for £450 from members market.

I recon the RTX 3070 will fit the bill. They just need to price it properly. Within reach of 2080Ti and much better RT for under £500 is appealing to me. My main concern is VRAM, as 8GB is too little. So hope they go 12GB at least.
 
TNA said:
That will likely be no less than 2 years away, maybe closer to 3 from now. Long wait. I can’t wait that long personally. Been waiting for something to improve the price for performance of the Titan XP I had for ages now. Think I got it for £450 from members market.

I recon the RTX 3070 will fit the bill. They just need to price it properly. Within reach of 2080Ti and much better RT for under £500 is appealing to me. My main concern is VRAM, as 8GB is too little. So hope they go 12GB at least.
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I got my 1070 for £380, sold the game it came with for £20 so effectively it cost me £360.

If the 3070 is around £450, I'll be tempted.

Any more and I'll probably wait for a 4070, or maybe buy a s/h 2070S.

And yeh, 8GB on a 3070 is a big no for me.
 
Do we know who much ram the new consoles have and how much vram the gpus have?

Are they doing any cleaver vram/ram sharing?

This will be an indication of how much ram the new Nvidia / AMD cards will have.
 
Well then. If games on the console will have access to 16Gb of ram/vram then the GPUs on the PC will also need to give games access to this amount of ram.

Whether that's through hardware capacity or some MS DX12/Nvidia/AMD driver magic being able to pool all available memory together and present it to the application.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
16GB of GDDR6. It is shared memory

Both consoles are also relying on the SSD for swapping data.
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They still need some for OS, CPU and such.

I think the ps5 has access to the full 16gb but likely will be around 12-13gb etc with OS.

XSX has access to only 10gb fast (600gbs) and 6gb slow (300gbs). The GPU likely won’t touch the slow memory without performance issues.

Plus even with the SSD it’s still only up to 2.4-4gbs won’t be anything useful outside of being able to load in larger more complex environments/textures/scenes/faster loading times etc. Won’t make any difference to gpu performance.
 
tyler_jrb said:
They still need some for OS, CPU and such.

I think the ps5 has access to the full 16gb but likely will be around 12-13gb etc with OS.

XSX has access to only 10gb fast (600gbs) and 6gb slow (300gbs). The GPU likely won’t touch the slow memory without performance issues.

Plus even with the SSD it’s still only up to 2.4-4gbs won’t be anything useful outside of being able to load in larger more complex environments/textures/scenes/faster loading times etc. Won’t make any difference to gpu performance.
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Xbox series x reserves 2.5GB for the OS, I expect the PS4 to be pretty close. So lets say 13GB RAM is available.

SSD speeds are 2.4GB/s raw, 4.8GB/s compressed for the XBX and 5.5 GB/s Raw, 8-9GB/s Compressed for the PS5.
Also do you believe that Sony spent 100,000s maybe even millions of dollars on a custom SSD just for faster load times? IMO those SSDs are going to do more than just load level 2 secs quicker than an off the shelf PC SSD.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Xbox series x reserves 2.5GB for the OS, I expect the PS4 to be pretty close. So lets say 13GB RAM is available.

SSD speeds are 2.4GB/s raw, 4.8GB/s compressed for the XBX and 5.5 GB/s Raw, 8-9GB/s Compressed for the PS5.
Also do you believe that Sony spent 100,000s maybe even millions of dollars on a custom SSD just for faster load times? IMO those SSDs are going to do more than just load level 2 secs quicker than an off the shelf PC SSD.
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That’s a very good point.
 
opethdisciple said:
Real time streaming of textures and assets from disc.

Does this mean my Gen 3 970 Evo is gonna need to be upgraded to a Gen 4?
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It will depend on what developers decide to do in future. They could decide to increase RAM requirements on PC, instead of relying on streaming from the SSD.

As a sidenote, here is a video comparing the performance of star citizen on an SSD vs HDD

 
opethdisciple said:
Well then. If games on the console will have access to 16Gb of ram/vram then the GPUs on the PC will also need to give games access to this amount of ram.

Whether that's through hardware capacity or some MS DX12/Nvidia/AMD driver magic being able to pool all available memory together and present it to the application.
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Will also depend on what resolution you're playing, how big is the difference between certain settings, etc. At least below 4k, I don't think 8GB vRAM is going to be much of a problem.
 
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